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Hans Moleman - You are an absolute disgrace, a blindfolded begrudger with the conscience of a viper. You attack a guy who plays because he is picked, because he gives his lot for Ireland - and then you have the obnoxious hide to compare him with a guy who who could have played 100 times if he wasn't  "injured" so often . . . and then walked out on his country. Whelan is no champion on the pitch but he has had an excellent career. He was top three in the qualifiers (with the two you mentioned). He thoroughly deserved his place in every game. He won man-of-the-match twice and generally had an excellent campaign.  The likes of you, pathetic mudslingers that you are, hone in on Whelan's every move with dagger - opportunists putting the boot in because it suits your mob mentality. Ireland play bad? It's Whelan's fault. 

The treatment meted out to Whelan over his career by ledgers such as yourselves is a national scandal - and the likes of you and your acolyte King_Kenny are morally only behind morons who dredge the depths in their treatment of James McClean. While Delaney has big questions to answer, Glenn Whelan can proudly hold his head high.

 Get off his back you pair of bandwagon dribblers. 

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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Hans Moleman - You are an absolute disgrace, a blindfolded begrudger with the conscience of a viper. You attack a man who plays because he is picked, because he gives his lot for Ireland - and then you have the obnoxious hide to compare him with a guy who who could have played 100 times if he wasn't  "injured" so often . . . and then walked out on his country. Whelan is no champion on the pitch but he has had an excellent career. He was top three in the qualifiers (with the two you mentioned). He thoroughly deserved his place in every game. He won man-of-the-match twice and generally had an excellent campaign.  The likes of you, pathetic mudslingers that you are, hone in on Whelan's every move with dagger at the ready - opportunists putting the boot in because it suits your mob mentality. Ireland play bad? It's Whelan's fault. 

The treatment meted out to Whelan over his career by sledgers such as yourselves is a national scandal - and the likes of you and your acolyte King_Kenny are morally only behind morons who dredge the depths in their treatment of James McClean. While Delaney has big questions to answer, Glenn Whelan can proudly hold his head high. 

 Get off his back you pair of bandwagon dribblers. 



Slightly over the top. It just shows how far we've fallen when Whelan was our most consistent player over the past 2 campaigns (closely followed by Randolph and Duffy).

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Can't wait for the era after Kenny because we will win the World Cup


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I fear the knives will be out for Kenny if things don't get off to a good start. He needs at least 2 years to rebuild this team, an opportunity that was badly missed and should have commenced after the Danish debacle in 2017.
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We should have a chart similar to the Scouse boom cycle. It's very appropriate.
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Originally posted by Mr. Snrub Mr. Snrub wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Can't wait for the era after Kenny because we will win the World Cup


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I fear the knives will be out for Kenny if things don't get off to a good start. He needs at least 2 years to rebuild this team, an opportunity that was badly missed and should have commenced after the Danish debacle in 2017.


ah Kenny will be fine once he takes on board the view of some of the dopes on here and starts with an 8-9-5 formation and a squad of 50, or perhaps more as there is still loads of time for another young Irish or Irish sounding lad to tie his laces properly in Div 11 south of some league somewhere to be absolutely in the squad.

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Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by Mr. Snrub Mr. Snrub wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Can't wait for the era after Kenny because we will win the World Cup


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I fear the knives will be out for Kenny if things don't get off to a good start. He needs at least 2 years to rebuild this team, an opportunity that was badly missed and should have commenced after the Danish debacle in 2017.


ah Kenny will be fine once he takes on board the view of some of the dopes on here and starts with an 8-9-5 formation and a squad of 50, or perhaps more as there is still loads of time for another young Irish or Irish sounding lad to tie his laces properly in Div 11 south of some league somewhere to be absolutely in the squad.
😂😂😂there might be an Irish sounding lad called whelan in div 11 south soon and he’ll be on a squad of 23!


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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Can't wait for the era after Kenny because we will win the World Cup

My post isn't in anyway Glenn Whelan related but what is your obsession with trotting out this line time and time again?

I don't think any poster has unrealistic expectations of what Stephen Kenny is going to do, bar tweak how we play and integrate a lot of our good young players in the hope we'll become more pleasing on the eye as a team. 

It would certainly be nice "attempting" to go and try win matches instead of watching the ultra defensive and caveman like football we're playing currently and have done for a number of years.

With risk comes reward, we will no doubt be more open and less harder to score against but I would imagine with that we will be more expansive and score more as a result.


Edited by Green Devil - 10 Jan 2020 at 8:20pm
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Risk also comes with getting it wrong and getting an absolute tanking.

I too, am looking forward to Kenny taking over as I've been to all the u21 games and there is some exciting players there, with a positive attacking approach.

However, not many of these players are playing for their clubs and the step up to international level is an enormous step. I'd say most of the players in the current squad will be in Kenny's too.

Everytime we get a new manager the exceptions go through the roof and then they level off, and then the manager becomes a dinosaur, we also have the usual posters who will look at the starting 11 and demand that player x should be playing instead of player y etc...
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

the step up to international level is an enormous step. 


No it's not. Beyond maybe the top 20 or so teams in the world, the standard of international football is quite average and most of it is championship level stuff. We're 32nd or something in the world for god's sake and we're sh!te.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Risk also comes with getting it wrong and getting an absolute tanking.

I too, am looking forward to Kenny taking over as I've been to all the u21 games and there is some exciting players there, with a positive attacking approach.

However, not many of these players are playing for their clubs and the step up to international level is an enormous step. I'd say most of the players in the current squad will be in Kenny's too.

Everytime we get a new manager the exceptions go through the roof and then they level off, and then the manager becomes a dinosaur, we also have the usual posters who will look at the starting 11 and demand that player x should be playing instead of player y etc...


Personally speaking, I fully expect things to get worse before they get better under Kenny as there is a radical overhaul needed between personnel, tactics, style of play etc and I would hope most others will apply logic when they realize the task at hand.

In regard to your comment about not many of young players playing for their clubs, plenty of them are on the fringes and are tasting first team football Obafemi, Collins, O'Shea, O'Connor (you would expect now at Oxford) Idah (Pukki injured), Parrot may get a loan move in the summer etc adding in Knight and Molumby, Connolly all starters for their clubs.

In truth we have 6 or 7 nailed on starters in Randolph, Egan, Coleman, McGoldrick, Doherty, Stevens, Duffy heading into the next campaign, I think we can definitely afford to add a couple of the young guns into the starting 11.

What's clear is that our midfield will be looked at first by Kenny, it's a must. While personnel may not change drastically, he will definitely look to change the system and how they play.

 
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Hans Moleman - You are an absolute disgrace, a blindfolded begrudger with the conscience of a viper. You attack a man who plays because he is picked, because he gives his lot for Ireland - and then you have the obnoxious hide to compare him with a guy who who could have played 100 times if he wasn't  "injured" so often . . . and then walked out on his country. Whelan is no champion on the pitch but he has had an excellent career. He was top three in the qualifiers (with the two you mentioned). He thoroughly deserved his place in every game. He won man-of-the-match twice and generally had an excellent campaign.  The likes of you, pathetic mudslingers that you are, hone in on Whelan's every move with dagger at the ready - opportunists putting the boot in because it suits your mob mentality. Ireland play bad? It's Whelan's fault. 

The treatment meted out to Whelan over his career by sledgers such as yourselves is a national scandal - and the likes of you and your acolyte King_Kenny are morally only behind morons who dredge the depths in their treatment of James McClean. While Delaney has big questions to answer, Glenn Whelan can proudly hold his head high. 

 Get off his back you pair of bandwagon dribblers. 


Meh 
 

An absolute disgrace eh. I presume it's the campaign just gone you are calling that?
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Can't wait for the era after Kenny because we will win the World Cup

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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Green Devil . . .
"We have played absolutely shocking this campaign . . .  we have played horrendously as a team and that is the long and the short of it . . . if you were giving ratings on individual performers out of 10 over the whole group, even our top performers wouldn't get over 5 or 6 a maximum.Please stop using these utterly ridiculously low barometers when trying to justify how our players have played under McCarthy."


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"Personally speaking, I fully expect things to get worse before they get better under Kenny." 


Can't wait! Exciting young players, new tactics, new vision, a holding midfielder (of course), absolutely no Whelan and we'll get . . . worse. But then the Beautiful-Game phoenix will rise. OK everyone, let's have a group hug and sing Kumbaya.

I've been saying this for months and I stand by it, lets simplify it for you.

Currently - Performances both as a team and individually for the most part have been exceptional poor and we're playing a very outdated and poor brand of football, but we're picking up results at the moment.

In the long run this needs to change, we can't keep neglecting the level of performance and keep hoping we pluck points out of the bag even when fully undeserving time after time. This luck tends to run out in the long run.

Future - Results under Kenny will probably be worse than they are now as he attempts to overhaul the whole mindset and approach we take in matches. Adding in that the more young players that play we have to allow that they will be naive at this level and no doubt learn some harsh lessions due to their inexperience.

But I fully expect the brand of football to change over time, new tactics/players implemented etc and this all takes time and I think for the betterment of Irish football it can only be a good thing as we now have a lot of talented and technically really good players coming through.

So there you have it,

I won't be debating with you further on the matter, its off topic in the wrong thread. If you grasp it you'll get what I'm saying, if you don't thats your problem.


Edited by Green Devil - 11 Jan 2020 at 8:26am
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New manager, new methods.

Four words to summarise your War and Peace. Now you're slipping out the back door. You tend to do that.
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Green Devil . . .
"We have played absolutely shocking this campaign . . .  we have played horrendously as a team and that is the long and the short of it . . . if you were giving ratings on individual performers out of 10 over the whole group, even our top performers wouldn't get over 5 or 6 a maximum.Please stop using these utterly ridiculously low barometers when trying to justify how our players have played under McCarthy."


Green Devil again . . .
"Personally speaking, I fully expect things to get worse before they get better under Kenny." 


Can't wait! Exciting young players, new tactics, new vision, a holding midfielder (of course), absolutely no Whelan and we'll get . . . worse. But then the Beautiful-Game phoenix will rise. OK everyone, let's have a group hug and sing Kumbaya.

I've been saying this for months and I stand by it, lets simplify it for you.

Currently - Performances both as a team and individually for the most part have been exceptional poor and we're playing a very outdated and poor brand of football, but we're picking up results at the moment.

In the long run this needs to change, we can't keep neglecting the level of performance and keep hoping we pluck points out of the bag even when fully undeserving time after time. This luck tends to run out in the long run.

Future - Results under Kenny will probably be worse than they are now as he attempts to overhaul the whole mindset and approach we take in matches. Adding in that the more young players that play we have to allow that they will be naive at this level and no doubt learn some harsh lessions due to their inexperience.

But I fully expect the brand of football to change over time, new tactics/players implemented etc and this all takes time and I think for the betterment of Irish football it can only be a good thing as we now have a lot of talented and technically really good players coming through.

So there you have it,

I won't be debating with you further on the matter, its off topic in the wrong thread. If you grasp it you'll get what I'm saying, if you don't thats your problem.
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

New manager, new methods.

Four words to summarise your War and Peace. Now you're slipping out the back door. You tend to do that.

Of course now its easy to say "four words" to summarise my point,  because I broke it down and explained it especially for you hence why I said "I will simplify it for you"

You seem too thick and ignorant to acknowledge a posters opinion on any given thread, you don't really debate the point at all.

Point in question, you manage to drag debate on a football related topic completely off topic again.

Its not a case of me "disappearing" either, when you learn to debate points at hand and reply in a mature manner you'll then get reasonable debate.
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