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The White Cafu
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Was training 2 days a week, plenty of Hearts fans think he was more than good enough for them and things just didn't work out, he didn't magically turn from one of the best players in a top Championship team to a League 1 player over the Summer, but that doesn't suit the anti-Whelan narrative the majority of our fans who clearly haven't a clue about football have.
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OnTheOneRoad
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I'd love to see Molumby get his spot for the playoffs if James McCarthy is able and willing
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OnTheOneRoad
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Hearts and the entire Championship mustn't have a clue about football then, as well as the majority of Irish fans, for letting one of the best players in a top team in their league go to Scotland and get released.
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wouldn't be too surprised to see him back at stoke.
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gspain
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He has been very good for us. Hopefully he will get a club soon.
The only obvious youngster in Glenn's position is Josh Cullen. He does look a real prospect but to hand him his competititve debut in Bratislava is a huge risk. He has also been out for a few weeks but due back any day now I believe. |
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horsebox
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Could be a good shout. Free player until the end of the season. |
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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22174 |
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Another idiotic statement to make. He wasn't one of the best players in that Villa side in The Championship last season so lets not kid ourselves there either. Mings, Grealish, McGinn, Elmo, Abraham etc were their main players so you're wrong. We need to debunk this myth that a holding midfielder is crucial to the way we play, it really isn't and I would go as far as saying a holding midfielder is probably one of the most redundant positions in our set up! 1. We don't start attacks from our kick outs (i.e. 6 drops in to receive the ball from the keeper to help start the attack) 2. We play a long ball game, which bypasses our midfield thus limiting their impact on a game even further. 3. When we don't have the ball we tend to sit back with 11 men behind the ball, which would make the centre of the pitch fairly compact. (Yet still we got cut open on many occasions times this campaign) 4. Due to us not pressing from the front space tends to be at a premium for the opposition to work in because they know if they go direct Duffy will hoover up most aerial threats! 5. I would also argue despite having numerous players behind the ball when out of possession we defend unbelievably deep also which again would limit the role of our holding midfielder. Most modern day holding midfielders will try to engage with the opposition higher up the pitch, whereas Glenn plays so deep you would swear he was a third centre half. |
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
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BrendanD88
Roy Keane 99% of my posts are emojis Joined: 29 Mar 2013 Location: Co Down Status: Offline Points: 10020 |
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Ah f**k off
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Shedite
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Comments from the manager are a bit strange, albeit refreshingly honest.
"I can say he is a good type. He wants to take the responsibility but I have seen only three games. Do you have the feeling he is a leader in this group? It's not Glenn's fault – but a real leader in the centre of the pitch? Sorry. Maybe I missed it. Michael Smith tries to take responsibility on the pitch. "Before I came here, they signed some players who have experience and are the right age to take the responsibility but maybe they are not fit at the moment or they cannot handle the situation at the moment." |
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Green Devil
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Given the gung-ho/all action nature of the SPL would Glenn not have been better off going to a league with less physical demands on his body.
I mean at his age, a slower paced more technical league would have suited him far better. Go and watch a Hearts vs Hibs game on the telly you would be nearly out of breath looking at it, never mind playing in it due to the ferocity and tempo these games are played at.
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
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OnTheOneRoad
Ray Houghton Joined: 06 Nov 2014 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 4190 |
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This is not a point in favour of Cullen or against Whelan but more a general one - Risk of what? Losing? We went with the 'tried and tested' against Switzerland. Lost. Went with it against Denmark needing a win. Didnt get it. Went with it against Georgia. Didn't win, never looked like winning. In general, i don't understand the mindset. In general football terms, sticking with the tried and tested means "I know the abilities of these 11 players, and based on this i trust them to get the job done and get us the result we need". In Ireland, it means "I know the abilities of these 11 players". They've been tried, they've been tested, they've succeeded on rare occasions, more often than not they fail. I don't understand why those predictably unfavourable odds are such a comfort to people and that it would be insanity to introduce a young player doing well for his club that might offer us something different. That applies all over the pitch.
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Trigboy 10
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Edited by Trigboy 10 - 07 Jan 2020 at 1:40pm |
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gufct
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manager also sacked captain Bera. Gle will be back playing and proving the knockers wrong again.
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One City,One County,One Club GUFC will be back.
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Conan
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Whelan's been doing his job for us of defensive holding midfielder and shielding the defence and one of the reasons we concede few goals is because of his efforts. The remainder of the midfield and strike force responsible for the creation and scoring of goals are the ones that are failing in their job.
Molumby's a promising player but he's not a tackler at all, he plays in a deep role but his qualities are in creating play not of a defensive nature so he's not a like for like replacement in any respect. Maybe we could manage without a defensive midfielder completely but playoff match is a one off and not the best time to experiment, we could completely collapse. Having said that if Whelan's not playing regular football he's going to need to be replaced; more likely by Cullen if he's fit. McCarthy doen't seem bothered and isn't someone we can count on.
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pre Madonna
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Berra has been absolutely abysmal for a while though. It is clearly a season too far for him.
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BrendanD88
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Green Devil
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How come you never add any analysis on what the likes of Glenn offers this Irish side in a football context i.e. on the pitch. All you ever do is whinge and moan when people aren't saying what you want to hear about your favourites, it's embarrassing. Basically you either go over the top praising certain players you like or you go over the top defending them without actually talking about what they actually do or bring to the team. The depth of your comments are basically - Glenn always shows up, Glenn has 90 caps, Glenn is a lovely bloke etc Edited by Green Devil - 07 Jan 2020 at 2:09pm |
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
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Mr. Snrub
Liam Brady Joined: 12 Mar 2016 Location: Co. Dublin Status: Offline Points: 2077 |
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Now, I'm by no means a Whelan basher. I think he's been one of our most consistent players the past 2 campaigns but to call him one of our best ever is just laughable. I hope this is tongue in cheek! |
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"Here's Robbie Keane...... yeeeessss! That is no more than Ireland deserve!"
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