Mick McCarthy

horsebox wrote: t_rAndy wrote: yes and we’ll be having the same arguments. Hendrick was missing in that midfield. McClean was a headless chicken losing the ball 20 times out of 25 times he got the ball. Whelan tried but was limited. McGoldrick had no support. Etc. If you look at the video of McClean of losing the ball x amount of times, some were him crossing ball into the box, getting tackled whilst and the ball going out for an Ireland throw etc... From what I recall of watching it, I thought it was a very disingenuous statistic.

Unpopular opinion but Doherty is an accident waiting to happen as a right back. Unless he’s being used as a wingback where he has the center backs covering him then ya that’s fine and he’s a very dangerous player in that system. Right Back or Right Winger forget about it. Victor Moses was one of the best players in the league when he was used as a wingback under conte. He’s failed to flatter really as an out and out winger. I’m my opinion that’s no coincidence. Doherty has excelled for his attacking play I.e goals and assists.

JUICEBOMB wrote: AonSceal19 wrote: Unpopular opinion but Doherty is an accident waiting to happen as a right back. Unless he’s being used as a wingback where he has the center backs covering him then ya that’s fine and he’s a very dangerous player in that system. Right Back or Right Winger forget about it. Victor Moses was one of the best players in the league when he was used as a wingback under conte. He’s failed to flatter really as an out and out winger. I’m my opinion that’s no coincidence. Doherty has excelled for his attacking play I.e goals and assists. One thing I will say about Doherty is that he’s very slow to track back after going forward...we’re not the type of team that can afford that...and that him seems to gas out relatively quickly.but whatever system we play he starts and rightly so.

 the level of stupidity on this forum from certain posters is a sight to behold.

Edited by Hans Moleman - 12 Feb 2020 at 12:41am

t_rAndy wrote: exactly. The main reason to play a 3-5-2 would be to use the strengths of Stevens and Doherty in those positions where they have excelled for their clubs in the last 2 seasons. Against the swiss where he tried the 3-5-2 for all of 20 minutes, he has fecking Doherty on the bench and Stevens in the back 3 (so McClean and Coleman could be accommodated).  Now he has dumped the system all together because it’s a perceived failure by McCarthy. Play the players for the system and give it more than 20 minutes. He is so conservative and full of fear of making mistakes. Think it holds us back (e.g. have we ever won a big away game under Mick in all the years?). He sends out his team to be unadventurous away from home because he has imprinted it in his mind that being away from home is different. No doubt it can be a bit more difficult in different settings but the way he goes in it suddenly becomes David vs Goliath when we are away from home against any half decent side

No Doherty means we’re playing for penalties and we deserve to go out on that basis alone

Left foot wrote: horsebox wrote: t_rAndy wrote: yes and we’ll be having the same arguments. Hendrick was missing in that midfield. McClean was a headless chicken losing the ball 20 times out of 25 times he got the ball. Whelan tried but was limited. McGoldrick had no support. Etc. If you look at the video of McClean of losing the ball x amount of times, some were him crossing ball into the box, getting tackled whilst and the ball going out for an Ireland throw etc... From what I recall of watching it, I thought it was a very disingenuous statistic. C'mon horse! Mcclean crosses the ball a lot in ireland games but such is the lack of quality, he only has 3 assists in 72 odd games one of the assists vs Gibraltar and one in a friendly vs usa. For a wide player that's terrible. Mcclean gives 100% but a lot of what he does is wasteful.

And Switzerland.
Bottom line is, he can put the ball into the box all day long as there will be no one there to score it.
You can replace McClean and you'll still have the same problem.

He was top goal scorer last campaign too.

Same with Whelan (as per Deise's excellent post on this).





Edited by horsebox - 12 Feb 2020 at 8:18am

Always liked Mick but yeah, looking forward to a new era. I didnt expect him to be so irritable/grumpy this time around. Seems to be a prior condition if you're 60+ and in international football management.