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Maybe if Doherty hadn't of switched off for the Danish goal we wouldn't have to play the play offs - it's all ifs and buts.
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Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Why would the FAI extend Mick's contract beyond July? It's not as if it's going all that terribly well. Mick's going to continue to invoke Einstein's definition of insanity; picking the same team with the same underperforming players, set up in the same dysfunctional way. We won't qualify under McCarthy, and surely the FAI are as aware of this as we are. A change of approach at least gives us some sort of chance.

And why would Kenny agree to such an extension? He's signed a contract effective from August and should fully expect it to be honoured.


we finished 3 points off qualification and could well have qualified had we beaten the Danes in our last game?

You might not like the football or the philosophy but to suggest it didn't go all that terribly well is even more insane.

If we had had scored a goal more then the Danes we would have gone to the Euros, if we draw 0-0 with Slovakia and North/Bosnia but win on penalties we qualify.

Who gives a crap how we do it?

You sound similar to Michael Owen giving out about Atletico Madrid beating Liverpool. It might not have been pretty but they won.


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If mick is going to stay for another year, he's not going to do it for free.


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Why would the FAI extend Mick's contract beyond July? It's not as if it's going all that terribly well. Mick's going to continue to invoke Einstein's definition of insanity; picking the same team with the same underperforming players, set up in the same dysfunctional way. We won't qualify under McCarthy, and surely the FAI are as aware of this as we are. A change of approach at least gives us some sort of chance.

And why would Kenny agree to such an extension? He's signed a contract effective from August and should fully expect it to be honoured.

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Kenny probably won’t want his first real match or two to be failing to qualify for a major tournament anyway. Puts too much pressure on him from the get go. 
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There will be an agreement to stay on until its finished if it gets postponed. 
Kenny wouldn't force the hand, imagine coming in like that.

Unless Mick was looking forward to sailing off into the sunset in July
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Left foot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2020 at 1:54pm
Ok so the truth is that we don't know what impact the rescheduling of the tournament will be with regards to the McCarthy contract.

And we probably wont know until 

1. The tournament has been officially rescheduled 
2. Fai have discussed options with McCarthy
3. The option to stay on has been made and agreed with McCarthy  or not made at all

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I cannot imagine a contract without an end date. I've dealt with many working contracts and I've never seen one without a specified end date. There may be a clause 'with possible extension' but it should have an end date. Then again, this is the FAI so who knows.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Green Cockade Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2020 at 1:43pm
My previous post on this was based on what I have read about it. I confirm that I have not had sight of the contract myself but time limits are normally specified and do not encompass get-outs for the likes of natural disasters, pandemics, plagues of locusts, nuclear wars, etc. but if anyone has seen it or has an impeccable source, then I bow to their superior knowledge.
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Been told the wording on Micks contract is "Until the end of the involvement of the National Team in the European Championships"

No date stamp.

meaning he may well be in the job for another year.

Wouldn't worry about it. Mick is a straight man and whatever you think about him as a manager he would never hold Irish football to ransom. Last time he left he took a couple of months pay with him in lieu of notice. He will do the right thing.
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Originally posted by Fruice Fruice wrote:

Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Who will Quinn side with, Mccarthy or Kenny?🤔
The last time mother Theresa sided with Mick


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Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Who will Quinn side with, Mccarthy or Kenny?🤔
The last time mother Theresa sided with Mick
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Who will Quinn side with, Mccarthy or Kenny?🤔
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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Mick's contract is another idiosyncracy from the Delaney era. It does expire in July, it is not extant for the duration of the Euro campaign, so any unforeseen circumstance that disrupts the original timetable for the latter means Kenny will be in place from August and managing the senior team from then. Mick has a lucrative contract and he is well rewarded for this unusual and irregular situation. Nobody can blame him for that, Delaney and co. put up the dosh, but he's gone come July.


Unless Kenny and Mick come to a gentlemanly agreement for him to see out 'his' campaign.
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 Green cockade - you seem very sure here, can I please ask what makes you think this is definitely the case?

Not trying to challenge you here, just really interested.
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Mick's contract is another idiosyncracy from the Delaney era. It does expire in July, it is not extant for the duration of the Euro campaign, so any unforeseen circumstance that disrupts the original timetable for the latter means Kenny will be in place from August and managing the senior team from then. Mick has a lucrative contract and he is well rewarded for this unusual and irregular situation. Nobody can blame him for that, Delaney and co. put up the dosh, but he's gone come July.
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well isn’t that just delightful 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lassassinblanc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2020 at 9:34am
Been told the wording on Micks contract is "Until the end of the involvement of the National Team in the European Championships"

No date stamp.

meaning he may well be in the job for another year.
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