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dangere_here
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I said this before under my two previous aliases, the Liechtenstein game was just a freak result, I think we had something like 24 or 30 shots on target. The ball just wouldn't go into the net, a bit like Germany in Dublin in 2015. Another day we would have easily won 3-4 nil- The point is a freak 0-0 in Lichtenstein with 24 shots on target > a dour 0-0 v Denmark with no attempts on goal. |
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Double Maxim
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Did brilliantly to get SAFC promoted but was given feck all money to spend in the EPL.
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Icy Bread People
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You’ll be a hard act to follow fam
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9fingers
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Moleman is giving it a good go anyway
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Gary McKay
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Utd are my 92nd team in England. What relevance has that ?
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"Smalling and Jones.... have the potential to be the PL’s best ever pairing in my opinion." - SlurAlex
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horsebox
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If he is a spoofer, why has he, at 59 still managed to maintain employment during all this time? Secondly, Big Sam will not have a striker either! |
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Fruice
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At the top level Mick could never cut it has no trophy at this level to his name despite being there for years couldn't get s job at any top 10 club his level is the championship and thats what we are after opting for very disappointing. I know dam well Sam wouldn't have a striker it was more a comparison to the last time Mick incharge. And Sam is still a better Manager than Mick
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Stickittotheman
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His record of getting a tune out of average champiinship players is very good. Let's be honest a lot of out team is average lower end Premier league players with a spattering of Championship players. If you want a manager to get the best out of an average group you could do a lot worse than Mick McCarthy.
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Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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Stickittotheman
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The thing is as I just said above Mick has a good record of getting a tune out of championship and lower end Premier league players. He is steady and solid. He is what we need right now- an experienced man who knows the job and has a track record at club level of getting average players playing above themselves. We have an average group at the minute in dire need of structure and organisation. Mick will bring that to the table. I like Stephen Kenny and last November he would have been my choice. But now being pragmatic with euro qualifiers just around the corner and the team in disarray Mick is a good choice
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Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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greenlad
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I feel that giving the job to stephen kenny is like promoting somebody who manages in mcdonalds to a manager in the westin.
Kenny has done marvellous at dundalk but he (or a.n.other) needs to be brought in like engerland did with southgate, give him the u21's job and work with them until they and the manager are ready to step up to the senior team. maybe this is what the fai are looking to do with giving mick a 2 year contract. 1.2million a year is a big salary though.
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Hans Moleman
Roy Keane Muff: That is a lie and you are a liar Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 10199 |
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Because obviously if you have an issue with McCarthy taking over you must therefore be Roy Keane's lovechild. From there the logic goes that you must also be a United fan, and you were greatly upset by what happened Roy in Saipan. I too am a United fan now because I am strongly against McCarthys appointment this is the only logical explanation. It couldn't be that I don't rate McCarthy as a manager, or that McCarthys time long since come and gone. Or that there are endless other top qualified people around who could do the job on what is a huge salary. No, the only logical conclusion here is that anyone opposed to our Mick coming back loves Roy and is bitter over Saipan.
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9568 |
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Lads, no one is arguing thst Mick is a bad manager, but if you can't see the very clear similarities between him and MON you're deluding yourselves. Both are the type of managers who will be able to reorganise a team and get a temporary lift in fortunes from them, but in terms of sustainable progress they will come up short. They just aren't capable of making that "next step" in the development of a team, away from being merely solid and towards being more progressive.
Id' actually argue that that there is a striking correlation between the job Mick did at Ipswich and the job MON did with Ireland. They both came into teams that were in a tailspin, and they steadied the ship and made them difficult to beat. Off the back of that, Mick got Ipswich to the playoffs and MON got Ireland to the Euros. Unfortunately though, rather than being able to build on that success (or even sustain it), both teams succumbed to a slow decline whereby their tactics became more and more negative, to the point that they scarcely tried to do anything more than sit back and hope for the best. Ultimately, both managers ended up despised by their respective fanbases due to the perception that they were destroying their teams' morale/future; and they were removed off the back of that pressure. They really are uncannily similar stories....
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We're decent enough..
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t_rAndy
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Stats are all well and and the 2002 campaign was great for sure. But the 98 campaign was embarrassing, we had the easiet group imaginable and we somehow messed it up. 00 campaign, we did well to finish second and overall everything seemed to conspire against us to not qualify. But we also didn't help ourselves by bottling it in a couple of games at the death. 2002, we took results off teams who would have generally been expecting to beat us. But we also got results after generally courages performances where we were hanging in there. Holland away, after going 2-0 we were holding on for the draw at the end. Portugal away, we were second best but great goal got us the draw. Portugal home, we were also second best against a classy side but good draw for us. Holland home, somehow we weren't beaten and picked up a freak win. Cameroon were all over us for most of the game and kind of bottled it. Germany, we deserved the draw for sure , even though it took a last minute goal. Saudi Arabia were sh*t Spain we were hanging on in the first half. Grew into the game in second half. Got a lucky peno (was a foul but hardly ever see given). We were the more lively team in extra time and maybe should have won it and maybe could have if the bench had realized they were down to 10. 2004, disaster start with 2 defeats made it an uphill task for Kerr to qualify us
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Hans Moleman
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Correct. An awful lot of similarities in that regard. Amazing to hear somebody speak of how the Ipswich fans absolutely hated him by the end due to his style of football! If you were to just base your thoughts on McCarthys style of football from comments on this thread you'd think he was Michels, Cruyff and Guardiola rolled into one.
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Drumcondra 69er
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Just curious. Everyone I know who's used the exact arguments you were has been a Man u fan. Thought there might have been a memo sent out .
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Drumcondra 69er
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Nobody is suggesting that at all. People are saying he's a track record of getting average players to be the sum of more than there parts. That's it. How many of those Ipswich fans would have him back now as they prop up the championship?
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horsebox
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What trophies did Big Sam win? Sunderland, Wolves and Ipswich are teams not expecting to win trophies. I do believe that both are good managers and both would get the best out of their players too. And to be honest, I'd be quite content with Big Sam, or Kenny in charge but Mick got the nod. Edited by horsebox - 24 Nov 2018 at 11:38am |
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Newryrep
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It’s not an exciting appointment and we should know pretty quickly depending on the draw say by June after 4 games if it’s the right decision
The one right decision was to get rid of MON and for that we shoukd all be grateful - at least there is hope now ( and yes I know it’s the hope that gets you )
Edited by Newryrep - 24 Nov 2018 at 11:44am |
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