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Drumcondra 69er
Jack Charlton Joined: 07 Oct 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 7123 |
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They finished 11th under him which is the 5th best season in their history. They were relegated after sacking him despite being clear of the bottom three when they pulled the trigger. Taken them till now to get back. Regardless, his PL record is streets ahead of Warnock which was the point.
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tetsujin1979
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finishing in 17th was their fourth best final position in their history, 15th last year was their second. Best ever was 13th in 1981/82
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Banjaxed
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What's your point?
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Het-field
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I don’t like the word “elitism”. I always feel it’s a catch-all cop out, but I feel it is entirely appropriate when discussing this particular case.
I notice that the fans of “minority” clubs, are broadly accepting of the decision, while the fans of bigger clubs seem to be aggrieved on behalf of CH. It’s easier as a fan of a smaller club to see a decline or a regression, as you see it manifesting itself week in and week out in performances and results. Let’s not forget, the result that made all the difference was a 1-1 home draw against Newcastle United, as opposed to any sort of a statement result. Equally, Fulham and Huddersfield were relegated some time ago, which gave them breathing space. But also, much of the success of this season was achieved pre Christmas. Afterwards, the number of points gained was very paltry indeed. Fans of bigger clubs might look at the season and more of less default to the idea of “what do you expect.”. It relies on the slightly elitist idea that certain clubs should expect no more than safety, and be damn glad if it is achieved, and in this case a cup run puta gloss on it. But small clubs are the ones that struggle to get out of ruts. The goal of safety can be achieved by the “merry go round men” who have generally managed at all of the clubs outside of the Top 6 over the past decade. It is a generally achievable goal. But clubs are entitled to decide if their ambition is matched by the results on the pitch, and in the event there is a significant downward trajectory, they are entitled to move. I saw Warnock being mentioned above as a comparison. I actually think a better comparison would be MoN/Roy who were at the helm when we qualified for Euro 2016 and World Cup 2018 Play Offs. One might argue that this was a country of small stature punching above its weight, that we should be unwaveringly grateful to both. However, the results and performances declined, and the football wasn’t at all pretty, and almost to a man, Irish fans were generally onboard with the decision taken in November 2018. At Brighton, the results had declined, the football wasn’t pretty, and while the outcome of safety may be deemed an achievement, there is a point to evaluating whether the form might carry on into next season.
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Ecumenical Matter
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Sorry for Chris Hughton.
Good man who has kept a Championship club in the Premier League for another year. Bet Fulham fans wished he was managing them. They managed to achieve relegation in spite of the handicap of more money and a better squad.
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coyne
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Bump because it's a great post. Alot of people were saying the same thing when Southampton got rid of Adkins and brought Poch in, the chairman has higher ambitions and doesn't think Chris is the man for that. The stagnation and the poor big money signings were probably the biggest contributors in the decision making
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BabbsBalls
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Totally agree.
Form after Christmas is woeful. Once you are in a rut of losing every week it’s very hard to break that negative momentum. Get someone new in with fresh ideas. |
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l hear you are a racist now, father ?
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lassassinblanc
Paul McGrath Cheese, it’s not just for eating Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Location: Clairefontaine Status: Offline Points: 16478 |
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Linked with West Brom job. Think that would be a good move for him
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Bham_McDermott
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Should have put money on
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I don't agree with THAT, in the workplace!
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Baldrick
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They will get promoted within two years and he will keep them up and then he will be sacked and they will think they can do better and don’t like the style. They will then be relegated rinse and repeat. .
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AKA pedantic kunt
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SuperDave84
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That is a brilliant analogy on MoN/Roy and it is very hard to disagree with that post. Excellent post.
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skylarking
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This thread is a lesson about the risk in using in a thread title. Unemployment
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Double Maxim
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Chris is favourite for the Sheffield Wednesday job.
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Double Maxim without doubt the greatest drink in the world
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Double Maxim
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Chris getting linked with the Huddersfield job.
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Double Maxim without doubt the greatest drink in the world
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Dead cert for that job id say
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gazurtoids
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Neither of those clubs give him a genuine shot at promotion.....Huddersfield are in terminal decline with a poor squad and a new owner who won't bankroll a go at promotion.......Sheffield have a slightly better squad but hamstrung by finances
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Olaf
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Absolutely criminal the FAI don’t have a man of his ability coaching the national side. Who knows what we could of achieved. Let’s hope no one calls him before we do next year.
Edited by Olaf - 06 Sep 2020 at 7:06pm |
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BrendanD88
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Do us all a favour and f**k away off you sad c**t.
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