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colemanY2K
Roy Keane Fresh minty breath Joined: 01 Mar 2010 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 14959 |
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Great news for Dublin. Getting the likes of Norwegian is all well and good but how long will they continue with cheap transatlantic flights when the price of oil inevitably rises again?!?!? The low risk strategy is to go with the more established transatlantic Airlines. Furthermore, Ryanair, in the past year or so, have been in discussions with major transatlantic Airlines over the possibility of shuttling transatlantic passengers to hub airports e.g. Gatwick and Dublin.
The building of the second runway will really steal a march on Heathrow given the political paralysis surrounding the decision to build a new runway at the airport. Edited by colemanY2K - 08 Apr 2016 at 8:49am |
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Denis Irwin
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Yep. Reckon it'll be the likes of Virgin Atlantic coming in. Shouldn't be forgotten Dublin has pre-clearance for US immigration so would be an added incentive
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Shedite
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How much of a difference does an extra runway really make? Does it allow two planes land simultaneously (one on each). I never really thought that was DA's problem, more that there wasn't enough room in the terminals. Will it really allow more planes to land?
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Denis Irwin
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Extra capacity for Long Haul flights. Length will allow them in theory to fly direct to the likes of India which they can't do on the current runway
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SByrne24
Jack Charlton Joined: 11 Nov 2014 Location: Southampton. Status: Offline Points: 7811 |
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For a very long time judging by the aircraft they've purchased, the best in the business the Dreamliner is sublime I haven't had the opportunity to fly one yet but it's lighter faster, more fuel efficient and a better costumer experience then a 777 or A330. They're also recruiting pilots like crazy currently which is usually a good indicator.
You have to realise Airlines work on supply and demand they don't randomly pick locations, BA would be more likely then Virgin due to IAG and Aer Lingus, they've all parts in place to start flying globally from Dublin, Asia included. Virgin usually work seasonal out of the likes of Belfast so possibly the same in Dublin for the likes of Florida, It wouldn't make sense to fly another 4 flights to JFK for example when there's Aer Lingus, American, Delta, United all flying there to. It makes a huge difference: One for take off, one for landing it reduces the waiting around on the Tarmac, crucially it saves the airline money as taxing using around 5% of the total fuel and secondly makes for a better customer experience as it's quicker to get from A to B. What type of planes are you thinking DI? There's no chance an A380 is landing in Dublin. Edited by SByrne24 - 08 Apr 2016 at 9:36am |
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Denis Irwin
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Not A380.Would assume 777 and 787 are possibilities given Emirates and Ethiopian fly in with them
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SByrne24
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I read up on this about 15 minutes ago to see the length of the new runaway etc It's able to take one million pounds of aircraft that will take an A380 if they build the taxi ways the same as Heathrow that is, Emirates own 50? might be 51 now so never know they could fly in an A380 at some stage. Miami is sure to be a route with some airline, It got 60,000 searches on Sky Scanner this year clearly a demand for the route, more importantly AL have the new aircraft to be able to accommodate that route. An aircraft at MTOW out of Dublin can just about reach airport in the world with the exception of Australasia, I just can't see it making as big of a difference as some here have assumed a longer runaway won't play a 'huge' factor in routes to say Rio De Janeiro or Cape Town, Dallas. Unless an airline comes to an agreement to begin connecting flights, to take passengers from Glasgow to Dublin onwards to Singapore. Then you need a carrier capable of fulfilling those routes British Airways would make most sense due to IAG they already do this with the likes of Belfast City among other regional airports were BA Cityflyer connect to a British Airways flight. Norwegian would of made perfect sense, even for the Irish People Norwegian would of been perfect.
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Denis Irwin
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Yep I would say that connecting people from the likes of Glasgow is fairly probable with BA operating direct flights from here to where ever in the Far East. Especially given the new runway at LHR isn't going to be built anytime soon
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alihau41
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wouldn't see as stealing a march on heathrow. heathrow won't be able to have an additional runaway for another 10 years so considering willie walsh is a sharp f**ker, he saw the best bet was the outstanding planning permission in place at Dublin Airport, to tie in with the fact that he could buy AL for a decent price. it certainly is great news that this planning permission will finally be put to use. if ready in 2020, it would be 17 years since the proposal started. seems that there are a few sticking points in the original plan that AL among the other airlines are looking for resolution on, particularly the amount of flights between 11pm and 7am. if the new runaway has the capability to take planes the size of A380 / 787s (I'm sure something can clarify this?) then the natural idea would be to get these running on it, but that will create more noise pollution. if anyone was at the Dublin airshow along the liffey a couple of years ago and remember when the british airways brand new A380 ripped by nearly shattering every window in sight!! whatever the case, it is a good step in terms of job creation and at the current suggested price of 320m to construct it is certainly nice to hear of rather than the standard over-aggressive costs associated for any infrastructure build in ireland. If only the government can firstly decide to become a working government, and secondly open their eyes to the fact that a proper transport system between airport and city centre is needed to coincide with the increase in footfold coming and going through the country.
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SByrne24
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The runway is capable of taking one million pounds, therefore capable of taking an A380 the variant Emirates use. That all depends if the taxi ways are spaced correctly and can take the weight off course.
Haven't seen the length anywhere yet. Edited by SByrne24 - 08 Apr 2016 at 10:57am |
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bannerboy95
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great news for the country
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alihau41
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I think I read that the airlines would prefer a slightly longer runaway but in order to do so it would need a new proposal meaning another few years delay.
the taxi system is far better in Dublin than the likes of heathrow and CDG so hopefully they don't make a cock up of it
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SByrne24
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Heathrow isn't the worst in fairness considering the size of the airport. CDG is a disaster, up there with La Guardia. Roughly for a A380 it's 10,000ft I believe.
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alihau41
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3110m in length, and cost has been upped to 370m to include a new control tower
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ConorMac77
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So true, it's absolutely ridiculous that there is no direct rail link to Dublin Airport in this day and age when so many airports of a similar size eg Gatwick, Manchester etc have railway stations on site. As you say though, an actual working government is needed to start with. Btw was there not talk not long ago of a spur line being built from Clongriffen to serve the airport (sorry, can't remember where I saw it being reported)?
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Bob Hoskins
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you can get a bus into the city centre in 30 mins sometimes less.
In comparison to many city centre airports and travel times that is decent
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Saint Tom
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Yes but an empty tunnel isn't shiny enough for our guests. Dart underground is a much more worthwhile project than metro north
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rossieman
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yeah a spur from clongriffen has been mentioned several times and at one stage I think Irish Rail were backing it.The set up JFK Airport have with Airtrain from Jamaica station works well and I suppose Clongriffen spur would be a similar idea Ideally there would be a dedicated direct rail from airport connecting up with Connolly and Heuston stations and also go out to Swords etc. and going south from Stephen Green. |
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