Die Hard 2

Definetly watching that  Not as good as die hard 1 but still class

Trap junior wrote: Will be watching closely to spot plot holes

Two lads having a scrap on the wing of a plane while its flying is a fairly obvious one.

FrankosHereNow wrote: Trap junior wrote: Will be watching closely to spot plot holes Two lads having a scrap on the wing of a plane while its flying is a fairly obvious one.

Apparently John Sullivan was the main scriptwriter for the Die hard series but insisted he went uncredited.

Love how there just happend to be a spare 747 lying about in a Hanger

Trap junior wrote: Was watching Die Hard there and noticed some plot holes. 1. McClane turns his back on Bill Clay after giving him an empty gun but Clay could have had a gun hidden on him or hit him over the head with some inanimate object.  Bad decision making there. 2. At the end of the film McClane gives up his gun as Hans has his woman.  However he has apparently taped a gun to his back.  His back was soaking wet from blood and sweat. The tape wouldn't stick to his back in reality.  He would have looked a right gobsh*te acting all cocky only for the tape to fail and the gun to fall to the ground as he was cracking jokes. On a more serious note it just goes to show what women are like in real life.  He goes through hell to save her life, not just once but twice in Die Hard 1 and 2 and she still gives him sh*t in Die Hard 3 and leaves his ass.  Ungrateful bitch.

Right I'll try to answer logically

1. He already knows that Bill Clay is Hans when he gives him the gun, If he had a gun already why would he have not shot at him already. (it could be a case that John seen Hans gun before he dropped down, the main reason he doesn't allow to go get it.

How does he know he was Hans?

The screenwriter noted two things about it

(i) He notices Hans watch, all the terrorists are wearing the same watch. This is alluded to in a scene which was deleted and a part which was edited out. When John is talking to Al about them he says judging by their clothing labels he pauses and then says cigarettes this was edited the original line after the pause he says  "They all have the same watch"

 Also

(ii)Hans doesn't question the brand of cigarette given to him which leads to John's clarification, in fact unless Bill Clay was a frequent European smoker he would have known the difference between smoking a Euro vs an American.

2.  He uses gaffer tape, It would be strong enough to stick to his back. my only issue with this is how he done it is close to his middles back at his shoulders it would be quite difficult.

3. In terms of Holly leaving him, as referenced in the third movie he is a heavy drinker and obviously suffered from Post Traumatic Stress due to the last two movies. So i'd assume the whole leaving him was due to that.


Edited by lassassinblanc - 08 Nov 2017 at 9:30am

Everything is bigger and stronger in America,cars,meal portions ,Christmas presents,wrapping tape etc,was probably made industrial strength to hold huge presents for a fat yank kid.


He was probably on the booze flat out and not able to ride her,she had enough and jumped ship or cock.