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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

We're not talking about "not having socks" Sid, we're talking about "not being able to buy new socks". People can do without new socks for 6 weeks. 

Otherwise you'd have to open all sock shops, which would be pretty much all of the shopping centres, Grafton Street etc. We're on lockdown, new socks is something we can do without.
Perhaps you might be able to (I'll probably be able to as well, for full disclosure), but it seems like a very "I'm alright, Jack" attitude to assume that everybody will be able to

Like, say a single parent with two boys of 7 and 5

Growing children go through clothes pretty quickly, you know

And as far as I know sections of shops are not being closed off due to health regulations but due to business lobbying

It's little things like this that make people resentful of restrictions

I don't think that's a good thing at a time when the focus of public policy has to be more on persuading people and less on lecturing people
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Originally posted by the_walls the_walls wrote:

If clothes aren't essential then how can you justify allowing shops to continue to sell booze? I don't want a ban on drink being sold but I'm at a loss as to how it can be considered essential. 

Alcohol is essential for those that depend on it. An alcoholic could have a seizure and die is they suddenly stop drinking
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by jamo1 jamo1 wrote:

Originally posted by the_walls the_walls wrote:

If clothes aren't essential then how can you justify allowing shops to continue to sell booze? I don't want a ban on drink being sold but I'm at a loss as to how it can be considered essential. 
People can just stock up on Alcohol anyway if a ban is coming in so i would say banning alcohol would be pointless.

Think you are missing the point.  Who cares if they stock up on alcohol as that would stop them going to
The shop which the name of the game.   

The issue is that typically the person who is addicted to drink won’t have money or maybe even a place to stock up on drink and if they go cold Turkey it will have serious impacts and knock on impacts on the health service.  



They should ban cigarettes. Smokers are higher risk anyway, so in the interests of public health and all that. 
It would damage this forums' reputation
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Ever see the Simpsons Shining episode? That is what would happen if drink was banned in Ireland. People would see it as a step too far anyway.
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by jamo1 jamo1 wrote:

Originally posted by the_walls the_walls wrote:

If clothes aren't essential then how can you justify allowing shops to continue to sell booze? I don't want a ban on drink being sold but I'm at a loss as to how it can be considered essential. 
People can just stock up on Alcohol anyway if a ban is coming in so i would say banning alcohol would be pointless.

Think you are missing the point.  Who cares if they stock up on alcohol as that would stop them going to
The shop which the name of the game.   

The issue is that typically the person who is addicted to drink won’t have money or maybe even a place to stock up on drink and if they go cold Turkey it will have serious impacts and knock on impacts on the health service.  



They should ban cigarettes. Smokers are higher risk anyway, so in the interests of public health and all that. 

I think as nicotine is an addictive product this would have a disastrous impact.  Tobacco sales would just end up on the street and black market etc.  Not a major policy thing you should do in the middle of a pandemic.  
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by jamo1 jamo1 wrote:

Originally posted by the_walls the_walls wrote:

If clothes aren't essential then how can you justify allowing shops to continue to sell booze? I don't want a ban on drink being sold but I'm at a loss as to how it can be considered essential. 
People can just stock up on Alcohol anyway if a ban is coming in so i would say banning alcohol would be pointless.

Think you are missing the point.  Who cares if they stock up on alcohol as that would stop them going to
The shop which the name of the game.   

The issue is that typically the person who is addicted to drink won’t have money or maybe even a place to stock up on drink and if they go cold Turkey it will have serious impacts and knock on impacts on the health service.  



They should ban cigarettes. Smokers are higher risk anyway, so in the interests of public health and all that. 
Obesity has become a bigger problem in Ireland than tobacco related illness and you are more likely to have complications with covid if you are obese than smoking (that's a fact look at the fatalities) 
Should we close McDonald's, burger King, Chinese takeaways ect. Ban the sale of sugary drinks and sweets? The point I'm making is that no matter what you close or restrict the sale of has a knock on effect on people's life's be it work related or mental health. 
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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

We're not talking about "not having socks" Sid, we're talking about "not being able to buy new socks". People can do without new socks for 6 weeks. 

Otherwise you'd have to open all sock shops, which would be pretty much all of the shopping centres, Grafton Street etc. We're on lockdown, new socks is something we can do without.

Dunno about that. I go through 3 pairs of socks every month, I'd hate to be a hobbit just because I'm not allowed to buy socks !
Just wash 'em and you can reuse them LOL
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Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

We're not talking about "not having socks" Sid, we're talking about "not being able to buy new socks". People can do without new socks for 6 weeks. 

Otherwise you'd have to open all sock shops, which would be pretty much all of the shopping centres, Grafton Street etc. We're on lockdown, new socks is something we can do without.
Perhaps you might be able to (I'll probably be able to as well, for full disclosure), but it seems like a very "I'm alright, Jack" attitude to assume that everybody will be able to

Like, say a single parent with two boys of 7 and 5

Growing children go through clothes pretty quickly, you know

And as far as I know sections of shops are not being closed off due to health regulations but due to business lobbying

It's little things like this that make people resentful of restrictions

I don't think that's a good thing at a time when the focus of public policy has to be more on persuading people and less on lecturing people
Sid, I've 4 year old twin boys, there's no amount of growing in the next month that's gonna cause them to go sockless
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Can people just not buy clothes online?
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

We're not talking about "not having socks" Sid, we're talking about "not being able to buy new socks". People can do without new socks for 6 weeks. 

Otherwise you'd have to open all sock shops, which would be pretty much all of the shopping centres, Grafton Street etc. We're on lockdown, new socks is something we can do without.
Perhaps you might be able to (I'll probably be able to as well, for full disclosure), but it seems like a very "I'm alright, Jack" attitude to assume that everybody will be able to

Like, say a single parent with two boys of 7 and 5

Growing children go through clothes pretty quickly, you know

And as far as I know sections of shops are not being closed off due to health regulations but due to business lobbying

It's little things like this that make people resentful of restrictions

I don't think that's a good thing at a time when the focus of public policy has to be more on persuading people and less on lecturing people
Sid, I've 4 year old twin boys, there's no amount of growing in the next month that's gonna cause them to go sockless
Well done mate but the plural of anecdote is not data

This is a very difficult time for a lot of people and stopping them from buying socks or other necessary clothing because of business lobbying is not going to help things in the country, it's only going to build resentment


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So we are all in agreement, ban ciggies, booze, socks and Sid and this covid thing will be long forgotten Approve
It would damage this forums' reputation
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Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

We're not talking about "not having socks" Sid, we're talking about "not being able to buy new socks". People can do without new socks for 6 weeks. 

Otherwise you'd have to open all sock shops, which would be pretty much all of the shopping centres, Grafton Street etc. We're on lockdown, new socks is something we can do without.
Perhaps you might be able to (I'll probably be able to as well, for full disclosure), but it seems like a very "I'm alright, Jack" attitude to assume that everybody will be able to

Like, say a single parent with two boys of 7 and 5

Growing children go through clothes pretty quickly, you know

And as far as I know sections of shops are not being closed off due to health regulations but due to business lobbying

It's little things like this that make people resentful of restrictions

I don't think that's a good thing at a time when the focus of public policy has to be more on persuading people and less on lecturing people
Sid, I've 4 year old twin boys, there's no amount of growing in the next month that's gonna cause them to go sockless
Well done mate but the plural of anecdote is not data

This is a very difficult time for a lot of people and stopping them from buying socks or other necessary clothing because of business lobbying is not going to help things in the country, it's only going to build resentment
You literally had the same anecdote in your sentence LOL

Maybe my mistake was not coming back with your type of science "And as far as I know". If as far as Sid knows isn't data I don't know what is
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

We're not talking about "not having socks" Sid, we're talking about "not being able to buy new socks". People can do without new socks for 6 weeks. 

Otherwise you'd have to open all sock shops, which would be pretty much all of the shopping centres, Grafton Street etc. We're on lockdown, new socks is something we can do without.
Perhaps you might be able to (I'll probably be able to as well, for full disclosure), but it seems like a very "I'm alright, Jack" attitude to assume that everybody will be able to

Like, say a single parent with two boys of 7 and 5

Growing children go through clothes pretty quickly, you know

And as far as I know sections of shops are not being closed off due to health regulations but due to business lobbying

It's little things like this that make people resentful of restrictions

I don't think that's a good thing at a time when the focus of public policy has to be more on persuading people and less on lecturing people
Sid, I've 4 year old twin boys, there's no amount of growing in the next month that's gonna cause them to go sockless
Well done mate but the plural of anecdote is not data

This is a very difficult time for a lot of people and stopping them from buying socks or other necessary clothing because of business lobbying is not going to help things in the country, it's only going to build resentment
You literally had the same anecdote in your sentence LOL

Maybe my mistake was not coming back with your type of science "And as far as I know". If as far as Sid knows isn't data I don't know what is
Can you point me to the science that says nobody will need to buy socks in the next five weeks, please

Then apply it to underwear, pyjamas, and any amount of other items of clothing


Edited by sid waddell - 30 Oct 2020 at 4:03pm
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So now people wanting us to move to a level 5 lockdown want us to open retail up now?Ermm


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Town is fairly busy, a load of people getting take away pints and drinking them with their friends. 
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English papers running stories of a full lockdown until Dec 1st from Wednesday
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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

English papers running stories of a full lockdown until Dec 1st from Wednesday
Does full lockdown mean the same over there as here, as in half arsed.
Just because it's tradition does not make it right
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It’ll be an actual lockdown this time. Wales are already under tough lockdown but as guideline rather than law because it’s pretty hard to police the River Severn and the skies 

Boris was told in September lockdown 2 was needed but didn’t because every government prefers money over life but today’s meeting the advisers showed the NHS is about 2 weeks away from being overwhelmed which has made him reluctantly make the decision 
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