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Can I ask... Were the FORAS members told of the need to approach Preston to buy out the sell on clauses or did the BOM do that off their own back? 
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Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Still not seen what actually happened that ye ended up in this state, anyone able to sum it up? 
In my opinion, over 10 years we went from a part time division 1 team with volunteer staff, to European regulars with decent crowds, u19, u17,  u15, u13 teams, ladies team, u17 ladies team, amputee team; the staff grew and grew to cater for those teams, but the European money and crowds supported them. As soon as the team struggled, crowd went, European money went, and the debts built up pretty quickly. There were probably 4/5 other bad decisions that added to the problem which I won't go into on a public forum. In a nutshell, we probably had success too fast, grew too fast and the governance and budgeting was a bit behind where it should be.
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The downfall was the year City were in the Champions League and the budget was set for the year based on them getting through a round....huge mistake. A club killer. 

The people who were in charge at the time should be ashamed of themselves for signing off on such a thing. 

The ultimate downfall is that the people who came in after them didn't have it in them to make the necessary sacrifices within the club to try attempt to recover from it. Don't think their egos would allow such a thing. 

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Cheers lads, shame to see it end up the way it has 
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Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

The downfall was the year City were in the Champions League and the budget was set for the year based on them getting through a round....huge mistake. A club killer. 

The people who were in charge at the time should be ashamed of themselves for signing off on such a thing. 

The ultimate downfall is that the people who came in after them didn't have it in them to make the necessary sacrifices within the club to try attempt to recover from it. Don't think their egos would allow such a thing. 

Everything in this post is pure bull.Where do you get your information from Sham.You haven't a clue what went on.
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Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Still not seen what actually happened that ye ended up in this state, anyone able to sum it up? 
The budget used to be set on a very low attendances, something like 2,000 a game. The CEO got sacked.  There wasn't a strong voice to say no to John Caulfields demands., the predicted attendances for the budget was then brought to something like 4,500 which was just stupid.

The club was a day or two away from being declared bankrupt. Trevor Hemmings came along and paid the bill.

The board that took over this year we're very good.


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Sham, you're talking through your hoop lad. 

I'm guessing with every one of your post mentioning "egos" that you've some personal vendetta? 
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Originally posted by Jack City Jack City wrote:

Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

The downfall was the year City were in the Champions League and the budget was set for the year based on them getting through a round....huge mistake. A club killer. 

The people who were in charge at the time should be ashamed of themselves for signing off on such a thing. 

The ultimate downfall is that the people who came in after them didn't have it in them to make the necessary sacrifices within the club to try attempt to recover from it. Don't think their egos would allow such a thing. 

Everything in this post is pure bull.Where do you get your information from Sham.You haven't a clue what went on.
Believe it or not I actually have a fairly rock solid source on what I said. People who have seen finance documents first hand. 

Believe what you want. If you want to believe some of the lies that were peddled to FORAS members over the years then thats entirely your own prerogative.

As Jonathan O'Brien said on Twitter during the week, if Mark Tighe started sniffing around for info, the real story behind Citys collapse wont be long coming out.


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Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

Can I ask... Were the FORAS members told of the need to approach Preston to buy out the sell on clauses or did the BOM do that off their own back? 

Off their own back, but there were rumours floating around the week or so before the Shels match that we had been denied a license, I think the leak came from within the FAI, but I'm not 100% sure.

On your comment about the current BOM not willing to make sacrifices, I have to disagree. As soon as they came in in 2019, they began to scale back the budget, hence why Caulfield began taking snipes at them in the media by implying he wasn't getting enough backing, and it was him who started the new board vs old board narrative. 

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It looks like Preston have temporarily paused they purchase of Cork City. I'm suspicious that this fella wanted to buy the ground for houses.
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I'm only 2 mins from Turners Cross now in McDs even though I'm a Dub.
So what now for Cork. Hopefully the club survives in some way. If the second biggest city in country (outside Belfast) can't keep professional football going then its a very sad day for LOI and the so called best fans in the world.
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The club will survive in the First Division, just have to get on with it and rebuild.
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I very much hope so.
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Bout time they got someone in charge who actually knows what they might be doing. For a city thay size with the crowds they were getting european money etc now not a pot to piss in again. 
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Bout time they got someone in charge who actually knows what they might be doing. For a city thay size with the crowds they were getting european money etc now not a pot to piss in again. 
For years, the budget was based on an average gate of about 1800. All of a sudden,  the old board decided to make it 4500. On top of that, they allowed the then manager do what he wanted with money.


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Can be seen from both sides.  Trevor Hemmings from what I read on him, appears to be a decent bloke.  A more decent genuine businessman than most which are few and far between.  Of course he would want Turners Cross as part of the deal.

On the otherhand Turners Cross is owned by every Amateur Club in Munster from Dingle Bay Rovers to Dungarvan AFC, from Mogeely FC to Tulla United, from Glin Rovers to Burncourt Celtic.  We as the Soccer Community have seen the iconic Flower Lodge go to a rival sport.  We can not allow a second iconic ground disappear.
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Love that away fixture in Cork . Will be a dark day in Irish life if the Cross is yielded to parasites . 
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You'd like to think the council would never re-zone the land to residential.
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