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Shedite
Jack Charlton
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 9:03am |
Fruice wrote:
I would think if England bail UEFA out for the Euros.This would be a big boost to their chances of hosting 2030 |
This is exactly why it's in the news this week. England are likely to be asked to bail out Euro 2020, but they'd hate to think that this half-capacity tournament counts as their tournament and they wouldn't get a chance to host anything for another 40 years. I think they want to get it known that they're looking to host 2030 before the decision for 2020 is made, and to bring that into the negotiations for 2020.
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Fruice
Liam Brady
Joined: 22 Nov 2014
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 9:16am |
What capacity is Windsor Park? Surely its below the 40,000 all seater lever required. Casement park might be done by the then.
Edited by Fruice - 02 Mar 2021 at 9:16am
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Fruice
Liam Brady
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 9:19am |
Shedite wrote:
Fruice wrote:
I would think if England bail UEFA out for the Euros.This would be a big boost to their chances of hosting 2030 | This is exactly why it's in the news this week. England are likely to be asked to bail out Euro 2020, but they'd hate to think that this half-capacity tournament counts as their tournament and they wouldn't get a chance to host anything for another 40 years. I think they want to get it known that they're looking to host 2030 before the decision for 2020 is made, and to bring that into the negotiations for 2020. |
And to be fair the would be foolish not to this is a huge card to have.
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ConorMac77
Ray Houghton
Joined: 22 Apr 2015
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 9:43am |
Fruice wrote:
What capacity is Windsor Park?Surely its below the 40,000 all seater lever required. Casement park might be done by the then.
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Well below that minimum - only 18k - and its only recently been refurbished. So that's surely a non-runner.
Casement could be done by then but not sure what the capacity will be. Even so, we're left sweating on the GAA to agree to make it (and other gaelic venues) available for the tournament...in the middle of the championship season.
Edited by ConorMac77 - 02 Mar 2021 at 9:44am
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Het-field
Roy Keane
By Appointment to His Majesty The King
Joined: 08 Mar 2016
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 9:47am |
Shedite wrote:
England are likely to be asked to bail out Euro 2020, but they'd hate to think that this half-capacity tournament counts as their tournament and they wouldn't get a chance to host anything for another 40 years. |
It would be terribly sad if that happened. However, I still think they could bid for a WC. Don't forget, France held a WC and EC within 20 years of each other. While America will have had the WC (albeit shared in 2026) on two occasions in just over 30 years.
I think England suffer more from the internal politics of selection.
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zizu Kilbane
Jack Charlton
Joined: 23 Oct 2007
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 9:59am |
We bring 2 world class stadiums to the table. They have nothing to offer, none of their stadia meet the criteria
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wexfordman1
Kevin Kilbane
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 10:05am |
Be very interesting the 100th anniversary because it they give it to South American bid because of that Italy will want 2034 and so on they might make the decision no anniversaries.
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thebronze14
Jack Charlton
Derry City Til I Die
Joined: 22 Feb 2011
Location: Dublin/Donegal
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 10:07am |
coyne wrote:
t_rAndy wrote:
Think there are too many voiced in this bid. 5 associations is just too much. There would hardly be 5 automatic qualifiers would there? Or would if be an England tournament and they get the spot but will also use like 2 stadia in Scotland, 1 in Wales, 1 in NI and 2 in Ireland. And then just if we also qualify on our own merit then we would get home matches? Similar to past rugby World cups |
All 2030 bids are going to be joint bids so there's expected to be no automatic qualifications for this one.
South American nations of Uruguay, Paraguay, Argentina and Chile Joint African bid of Morocco with Algeria and Tunisia Spain and Portugal Scandanavian joint bid of Norway, Sweden and Denmark and finally the baltic joint bid of Romania, Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia.
I'd imagine the South American nations are the firm favourites with it being 100 years since the first WC in Uruguay. |
Baltic one would be brilliant!
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9fingers
Paul McGrath
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 10:12am |
zizu Kilbane wrote:
We bring 2 world class stadiums to the table. They have nothing to offer, none of their stadia meet the criteria |
Croke Park isn’t ours, realistically the FAI bring very little to the table and truth be told we shouldn’t be near this bid. It’s a complete wasn’t of time, effort & money that could all be much better invested in our structures. Same old FAI
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Drumcondra 69er
Jack Charlton
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 10:14am |
zizu Kilbane wrote:
The Nordies bring absolutely nothing to the table here. They should be jettisoned. 5 associations is too much. |
Be reunified by then. 😉
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bogball88
Liam Brady
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 10:27am |
Minimum stadium capacity not 40,000 for WC? Windsor not even half of that
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Dalymount79
Liam Brady
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 10:30am |
If the Britain part of the bid wants Ireland to be involved then they must view it as a positive rather than a negative as a result of some due diligence/ benefit analysis. So the negative comments / questions are already answered.
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ConorMac77
Ray Houghton
Joined: 22 Apr 2015
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 10:31am |
bogball88 wrote:
Minimum stadium capacity not 40,000 for WC? Windsor not even half of that |
Yep, and Windsor is only 18k.
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sid waddell
Roy Keane
On a dark desert highway
Joined: 20 Nov 2009
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 10:34am |
Drumcondra 69er wrote:
zizu Kilbane wrote:
The Nordies bring absolutely nothing to the table here. They should be jettisoned. 5 associations is too much. |
Be reunified by then. 😉 |
No, we won't be rejoining the UK
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane
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Joined: 18 Sep 2008
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 10:36am |
thebronze14 wrote:
coyne wrote:
t_rAndy wrote:
Think there are too many voiced in this bid. 5 associations is just too much. There would hardly be 5 automatic qualifiers would there? Or would if be an England tournament and they get the spot but will also use like 2 stadia in Scotland, 1 in Wales, 1 in NI and 2 in Ireland. And then just if we also qualify on our own merit then we would get home matches? Similar to past rugby World cups |
All 2030 bids are going to be joint bids so there's expected to be no automatic qualifications for this one.
South American nations of Uruguay, Paraguay, Argentina and Chile Joint African bid of Morocco with Algeria and Tunisia Spain and Portugal Scandanavian joint bid of Norway, Sweden and Denmark and finally the baltic joint bid of Romania, Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia.
I'd imagine the South American nations are the firm favourites with it being 100 years since the first WC in Uruguay. |
Baltic one would be brilliant! |
Jaysis lads two entries for the thick thread. The Baltic is the sea up by Estonia Latvia and Lithuania. They are known as the Baltic countries.
The balkans is the area which Serbia and Bulgaria and Greece and Romania. It’s named after the Balkan mountains.
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Newryrep
Paul McGrath
Just can't get enough of lists
Joined: 14 Jan 2009
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 10:46am |
Fruice wrote:
Shedite wrote:
Fruice wrote:
I would think if England bail UEFA out for the Euros.This would be a big boost to their chances of hosting 2030 | This is exactly why it's in the news this week. England are likely to be asked to bail out Euro 2020, but they'd hate to think that this half-capacity tournament counts as their tournament and they wouldn't get a chance to host anything for another 40 years. I think they want to get it known that they're looking to host 2030 before the decision for 2020 is made, and to bring that into the negotiations for 2020. |
And to be fair the would be foolish not to this is a huge card to have. |
FIFA would just renege - just like the English FA did to the German FA over 2006
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sid waddell
Roy Keane
On a dark desert highway
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 10:56am |
wexfordman1 wrote:
Be very interesting the 100th anniversary because it they give it to South American bid because of that Italy will want 2034 and so on they might make the decision no anniversaries. |
England will 100% get 2030
Next two World Cups go to outside Europe, including 2026 in the Americas
It will be in Europe in 2030 and it's England's turn - the Irish won't be involved either - it'll be England/Scotland and maybe Wales only
Athens bid to host the centenary Olympics of 1996, the IOC gave it to Coca-Cola instead
Athens later got 2004 as a sort of sop to them for not getting 1996
Uruguay/Argentina will probably get 2038 or 2042
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Denis Irwin
Robbie Keane
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Joined: 03 Feb 2008
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Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 11:18am |
zizu Kilbane wrote:
We bring 2 world class stadiums to the table. They have nothing to offer, none of their stadia meet the criteria |
Would you stop ffs. Croke Park isn't going to be made available in the middle of the Championship. FIFA take control of those grounds for at least a month.
As I said earlier would be shocked if this doesn't go to South America as it's the centenary WC
Edited by Denis Irwin - 02 Mar 2021 at 11:18am
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