Britain/Ireland may bid to host World Cup 2030
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Topic: Britain/Ireland may bid to host World Cup 2030
Posted By: The Tribesman
Subject: Britain/Ireland may bid to host World Cup 2030
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2018 at 11:16pm
England are seriously considering a bid for the 2030 World Cup but almost certainly with the other home nations and possibly The Republic!
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/england-keen-to-host-2030-world-cup-859384.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/england-keen-to-host-2030-world-cup-859384.html
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/soccer/british-government-ready-to-discuss-bid-to-host-2030-football-world-cup-855646.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/soccer/british-government-ready-to-discuss-bid-to-host-2030-football-world-cup-855646.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/08/01/england-moves-step-closer-hosting-2030-world-cup-distances-2022/" rel="nofollow - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/08/01/england-moves-step-closer-hosting-2030-world-cup-distances-2022/
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0801/982494-english-fa-consider-world-cup-2030-bid/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0801/982494-english-fa-consider-world-cup-2030-bid/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-cup/2018/07/16/now-perfect-moment-england-bid-host-world-cup-2030/" rel="nofollow - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-cup/2018/07/16/now-perfect-moment-england-bid-host-world-cup-2030/
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/716765/England-football-world-cup-2030-Theresa-May-Downing-Street" rel="nofollow - https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/716765/England-football-world-cup-2030-Theresa-May-Downing-Street
Even Blatter has suggested it could be a runner, not that it's a plus!
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/ireland-and-uk-could-host-2030-world-cup-says-sepp-blatter-850030.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/ireland-and-uk-could-host-2030-world-cup-says-sepp-blatter-850030.html
We should get JD on the case, we have 2 decent stadiums (if we get Croker!) and a United Ireland Team could represent the island!
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2018 at 11:18pm
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Posted By: The Tribesman
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2018 at 11:26pm
pre Madonna wrote:
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There are very few countries on their own who could host a 48 team tournament and I presume once 48 teams are established as the qualifier total, there will be no going back to 32 or 40!
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 12:14am
The Tribesman wrote:
England are seriously considering a bid for the 2030 World Cup but almost certainly with the other home nations and possibly The Republic!
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/england-keen-to-host-2030-world-cup-859384.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/england-keen-to-host-2030-world-cup-859384.html
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/soccer/british-government-ready-to-discuss-bid-to-host-2030-football-world-cup-855646.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/soccer/british-government-ready-to-discuss-bid-to-host-2030-football-world-cup-855646.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/08/01/england-moves-step-closer-hosting-2030-world-cup-distances-2022/" rel="nofollow - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/08/01/england-moves-step-closer-hosting-2030-world-cup-distances-2022/
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0801/982494-english-fa-consider-world-cup-2030-bid/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0801/982494-english-fa-consider-world-cup-2030-bid/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-cup/2018/07/16/now-perfect-moment-england-bid-host-world-cup-2030/" rel="nofollow - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-cup/2018/07/16/now-perfect-moment-england-bid-host-world-cup-2030/
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/716765/England-football-world-cup-2030-Theresa-May-Downing-Street" rel="nofollow - https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/716765/England-football-world-cup-2030-Theresa-May-Downing-Street
Even Blatter has suggested it could be a runner, not that it's a plus!
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/ireland-and-uk-could-host-2030-world-cup-says-sepp-blatter-850030.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/ireland-and-uk-could-host-2030-world-cup-says-sepp-blatter-850030.html
We should get JD on the case, we have 2 decent stadiums (if we get Croker!) and a United Ireland Team could represent the island!
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Posted By: Barna Bee
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 1:08am
Ok I'll bite ....There was not one mention of Ireland in any of those articles and Ireland would not have the infrastructure, knowhow or facilities to even host a group in the WC.
Last time we tried to get involved ( the IRFU) we were made look like a bunch of complete lightweights and were rightly put back in our box for having a sh1tty amateur, half baked solution ....what makes anyone think Ireland could help out here? ....delusions of grandeur I am afraid .....much and all as it would be great for the country ....it aint a runner.
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 7:12am
What self respecting Irish person uses the term Home Nations
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Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 8:58am
Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 9:07am
Barna Bee wrote:
Ok I'll bite ....There was not one mention of Ireland in any of those articles and Ireland would not have the infrastructure, knowhow or facilities to even host a group in the WC.
Last time we tried to get involved ( the IRFU) we were made look like a bunch of complete lightweights and were rightly put back in our box for having a sh1tty amateur, half baked solution ....what makes anyone think Ireland could help out here? ....delusions of grandeur I am afraid .....much and all as it would be great for the country ....it aint a runner.
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Ahh in fairness we could do one group, it’s only 4 games now as each group only has 3 teams. LR and some redeveloped/new stadium in Belfast. I doubt Norn Iron could have 2 stadiums available so they would have to share it with the Rep. Even if “Ireland” were given two groups, 8 games, you could have LR, Pairc Ui Chaoimh and Belfast. Spread those matches over 7/8 days, no problem with hotel rooms etc. Somehow doubt the Rep would be included though, I’d imagine Eng/Scot/Wal and maybe a token game or two in Belfast.
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Posted By: AnCearrbhach
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 9:11am
The Pairc is nowhere near the standard to host a international tournament. Its has 21k seats and even the rugby lads thought it was sub-standard in the RWC bid.
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Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 9:15am
AnCearrbhach wrote:
The Pairc is nowhere near the standard to host a international tournament. Its has 21k seats and even the rugby lads thought it was sub-standard in the RWC bid.
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Posted By: AnCearrbhach
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 9:17am
GB 1HughJarse wrote:
AnCearrbhach wrote:
The Pairc is nowhere near the standard to host a international tournament. Its has 21k seats and even the rugby lads thought it was sub-standard in the RWC bid.
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Posted By: Bob Hoskins
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 11:03am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Nations" rel="nofollow - Home Nations Was never really sure what it refered to
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Posted By: oldbilly
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 12:42pm
nobody remember the home international championships no? Used to be played every season back in the sixties/seventies, but there wasn’t near as many internationals then so it was a good squad builder for England/ Scotland etc. discontinued as pointless a good while back .lot of fans used to travel up to Windsor when they were playing England or Scotland, good chance to see the great bestie in action too
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Posted By: gspain
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 1:09pm
oldbilly wrote:
nobody remember the home international championships no? Used to be played every season back in the sixties/seventies, but there wasn’t near as many internationals then so it was a good squad builder for England/ Scotland etc. discontinued as pointless a good while back .lot of fans used to travel up to Windsor when they were playing England or Scotland, good chance to see the great bestie in action too |
The last one was in 1984. NI are still the reigning champions. I know a couple of Bohs fans who were on the bus to the England game at Windsor in 1983. It was run by a NI fan who still lives in Dublin. There were regular trains up to games in the 1960's from Dubin.
As for the World cup bid. I don't think we'd be included. However there is no stadium in Belfast with 30K+ seats. That is still the minimum requirement for a game. England could of course host it alone but I imagine would include Scotland and Wales.
I think the centenary should go back to Uruguay anyway but the finances of a UK bid would be very attractive to FIFA.
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Posted By: newrynyuk
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 2:29pm
GB 1HughJarse wrote:
Barna Bee wrote:
Ok I'll bite ....There was not one mention of Ireland in any of those articles and Ireland would not have the infrastructure, knowhow or facilities to even host a group in the WC.
Last time we tried to get involved ( the IRFU) we were made look like a bunch of complete lightweights and were rightly put back in our box for having a sh1tty amateur, half baked solution ....what makes anyone think Ireland could help out here? ....delusions of grandeur I am afraid .....much and all as it would be great for the country ....it aint a runner.
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Ahh in fairness we could do one group, it’s only 4 games now as each group only has 3 teams. LR and some redeveloped/new stadium in Belfast. I doubt Norn Iron could have 2 stadiums available so they would have to share it with the Rep. Even if “Ireland” were given two groups, 8 games, you could have LR, Pairc Ui Chaoimh and Belfast. Spread those matches over 7/8 days, no problem with hotel rooms etc. Somehow doubt the Rep would be included though, I’d imagine Eng/Scot/Wal and maybe a token game or two in Belfast.
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How did you get 4 matches in a group of 3? Team A v Team B Team A v Team C Team B v Team C
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Posted By: The Tribesman
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 4:45pm
Oh, Exsqueeze me, you obviously prefer to use 'The British Isles' instead!
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 5:08pm
Ireland and Britain would have sufficed, or as Britain would be the main host so to speak, Britain and Ireland would be acceptable.
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Posted By: eboue16
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 5:15pm
Sham157 wrote:
What self respecting Irish person uses the term Home Nations
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Posted By: The Tribesman
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 5:21pm
Sham157 wrote:
Ireland and Britain would have sufficed, or as Britain would be the main host so to speak, Britain and Ireland would be acceptable. |
In terms of a title thread on this forum, we are quite restricted in the amount of words we can have there, hence the main reason why 'Home Nations' was used!! BTW for most of us that term does not include The Republic!
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 6:05pm
What do you mean most? It doesn't include 'the republic' at all because it can't. It is a fact. The term is really only used by English people, mainly media and British nationalists. A lovely mob.
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Posted By: corkery
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 7:50pm
Here langer Dan, as the song goes 'We're not British, we're not Saxon, we're not English.' Now, away off and watch ITV.
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Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 9:00pm
newrynyuk wrote:
GB 1HughJarse wrote:
Barna Bee wrote:
Ok I'll bite ....There was not one mention of Ireland in any of those articles and Ireland would not have the infrastructure, knowhow or facilities to even host a group in the WC.
Last time we tried to get involved ( the IRFU) we were made look like a bunch of complete lightweights and were rightly put back in our box for having a sh1tty amateur, half baked solution ....what makes anyone think Ireland could help out here? ....delusions of grandeur I am afraid .....much and all as it would be great for the country ....it aint a runner.
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Ahh in fairness we could do one group, it’s only 4 games now as each group only has 3 teams. LR and some redeveloped/new stadium in Belfast. I doubt Norn Iron could have 2 stadiums available so they would have to share it with the Rep. Even if “Ireland” were given two groups, 8 games, you could have LR, Pairc Ui Chaoimh and Belfast. Spread those matches over 7/8 days, no problem with hotel rooms etc. Somehow doubt the Rep would be included though, I’d imagine Eng/Scot/Wal and maybe a token game or two in Belfast.
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How did you get 4 matches in a group of 3? Team A v Team B Team A v Team C Team B v Team C | By being crap at maths?
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Posted By: The Tribesman
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 9:15pm
[QUOTE=corkery]Here langer Dan, as the song goes 'We're not British, we're not Saxon, we're not English.' Now, away off and watch ITV.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, we can't even get ITV on Virgin Media down here now! So we have to concentrate on The Beeb!
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Posted By: PanteirA
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 9:28pm
Sham157 wrote:
What self respecting Irish person uses the term Home Nations
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Unionists from the North ?
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Posted By: PanteirA
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 9:31pm
Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 9:35pm
Posted By: PanteirA
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2018 at 10:31pm
Id take a guess that most of them respect themselves.
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2018 at 7:23am
The Tribesman wrote:
Sham157 wrote:
Ireland and Britain would have sufficed, or as Britain would be the main host so to speak, Britain and Ireland would be acceptable. |
In terms of a title thread on this forum, we are quite restricted in the amount of words we can have there, hence the main reason why 'Home Nations' was used!! BTW for most of us that term does not include The Republic!
| Thats ok, I helped you out and changed the title that strangely fitted fine in amount of space available in the title.
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Posted By: Sham157
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2018 at 7:29am
PanteirA wrote:
Sham157 wrote:
What self respecting Irish person uses the term Home Nations
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Unionists from the North ? | Would it help you out if I had have included something like “who deem themselves to be Irish”? Anyhow, my apologies for the confusion, luckily though everybody else got it, including the original poster for whom it was intended.
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Posted By: The Tribesman
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2018 at 7:37am
It's a pity what was mean't to be an informative thread descended into petty nonsense!
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Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2018 at 8:13am
As said on a previous thread a few weeks ago.
England will likely bid for it and throw a few games towards Wales and Scotland.
And maybe will give Dublin a few group games.
Dublin could host a group game every 4 days. So could host up to 3 games.
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Posted By: Cabra Hoop
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2018 at 8:25am
Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:
As said on a previous thread a few weeks ago.
England will likely bid for it and throw a few games towards Wales and Scotland.
And maybe will give Dublin a few group games.
Dublin could host a group game every 4 days. So could host up to 3 games. |
Yeh, but will the redevelopment of Dalyer be done in time ?
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2018 at 2:13pm
This would be a perfect opportunity to rejoin the UK. Rule Britannia.
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Posted By: cildaratown
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2018 at 2:01pm
not sure if this is anything new
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ireland-in-talks-over-joining-2030-world-cup-bid-92blmhnpv" rel="nofollow - https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ireland-in-talks-over-joining-2030-world-cup-bid-92blmhnpv
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2018 at 2:10pm
Hah, so it seems they'd do it to throw the Nordies under the bus.
But seriously, 2030 is going to be in Uruguay and Argentina. 2034 is a more realistic target.
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2018 at 2:24pm
From a Stadium point of view. Us being part of the bid makes more sense than having the nordies
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2018 at 2:27pm
Certainly. Though, whatever about the GAA giving the IRFU and the FAI use of Croke Park for Ireland games, will they lease the FA and FIFA the stadium for the crass commercialism of the quadrennial cash machine that is the FIFA World Cup?
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2018 at 2:38pm
SuperDave84 wrote:
Certainly. Though, whatever about the GAA giving the IRFU and the FAI use of Croke Park for Ireland games, will they lease the FA and FIFA the stadium for the crass commercialism of the quadrennial cash machine that is the FIFA World Cup?
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I'd have thought it would just be Lansdowne as part of the bid in the same way it will just be the Millennium Stadium that's Wales' part of the bid
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Posted By: rossieman
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2018 at 3:43pm
Denis Irwin wrote:
SuperDave84 wrote:
Certainly. Though, whatever about the GAA giving the IRFU and the FAI use of Croke Park for Ireland games, will they lease the FA and FIFA the stadium for the crass commercialism of the quadrennial cash machine that is the FIFA World Cup?
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I'd have thought it would just be Lansdowne as part of the bid in the same way it will just be the Millennium Stadium that's Wales' part of the bid |
Would LR meet the criteria for a world cup game ?Isnt there a few conditions regarding closing roads/cordoning off areas that is way beyond what happens for normal games.
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Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2018 at 3:46pm
Why would England need Ireland to be part of it? More chance of them getting it if its a joint bid?
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Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2018 at 4:09pm
Roberto Baggio wrote:
Why would England need Ireland to be part of it?More chance of them getting it if its a joint bid? |
England don’t need Scotland, Wales or Ireland but if it makes their bid seem better they will gladly throw a few group and 2nd round games in those countries.
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2018 at 4:12pm
Roberto Baggio wrote:
Why would England need Ireland to be part of it?More chance of them getting it if its a joint bid? |
Spreads out the costs given it's a 48 team tournament now
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Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2018 at 5:00pm
English FA will probably need the FAI in the voting process also, never mind the tournament itself.
There's Nations out there who are bitter the fact England/Wales/NI/Scotland have their own independent FA's rather than a single FA so the FAI will be used to reach out to those.
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Posted By: Floreat Ultonia
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2018 at 1:10pm
There's Nations out there who are bitter the fact England/Wales/NI/Scotland have their own independent FA's rather than a single FA |
There aren't. Some RoI fans on a chatboard # nations out there.
But humor me and name one or two of these nations.
so the FAI will be used to reach out to those |
Bit of a self contradiction surely? Where the "nations out there" might be annoyed is if 4 or 5 teams (including RoI) co-host and thus pre-qualify, leaving fewer places for everyone else in Europe.
As frequently above, England can stage the tournament single-handed. Any games staged in Glasgow, Cardiff or Ireland are problematic. A way round it would be Wales and Scotland still having to qualify and NI getting a consolation prize (say a senior women or u21 men finals
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2018 at 1:20pm
Hi Florry. Quiz time: A million quid for you and a United Ireland v No money and NI in UK?
Fig Rolls v Digestive?
Piles v Warts?
Jelly tots v Wine gums
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Posted By: Floreat Ultonia
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2018 at 1:23pm
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2018 at 1:26pm
Can never get a Nordie to answer a question
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Posted By: inlikeflynn
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2018 at 6:47am
I think that if a World Cup match were to be played in Dublin, it would make Joe Duffy’s shortlist for highlight of the year.
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Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2018 at 7:41pm
http://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/fai-to-join-feasibility-study-for-2030-fifa-world-cup-bid" rel="nofollow - http://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/fai-to-join-feasibility-study-for-2030-fifa-world-cup-bid
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Posted By: cildaratown
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2018 at 8:00pm
loads think Argentina / Uruguay are the favorites...which they might be due to the 100 year anniversary and anti-English sentiment. Would love to see some games at the Aviva though.
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Posted By: Terzino
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2018 at 9:04pm
UEFA will have 16 places at that World Cup.
There's no way they'd have Ireland and Britain taking up 4 or 5 spots. Especially as England could bid for it on their own.
At most it'll be a England & Scotland bid.
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Posted By: BabbsBalls
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2018 at 9:24pm
Terzino wrote:
UEFA will have 16 places at that World Cup.
There's no way they'd have Ireland and Britain taking up 4 or 5 spots. Especially as England could bid for it on their own.
At most it'll be a England & Scotland bid. |
England , Scotland and Wales
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Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2018 at 10:07pm
BabbsBalls wrote:
Terzino wrote:
UEFA will have 16 places at that World Cup.
There's no way they'd have Ireland and Britain taking up 4 or 5 spots. Especially as England could bid for it on their own.
At most it'll be a England & Scotland bid. |
England , Scotland and Wales |
This imagine the price of hotel rooms in Dublin with a WC on ? telephone numbers Is it a slow news day or something ?
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Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2018 at 11:34pm
The only reason England need anyone at all is to shore up votes from FA's they might not have great relationships with, they would probably hope Ire/NI/Sco/Wal could help persuade some of those to vote that way. It certainly isn't lack of stadia or infrastructure.
Uefa certainly won't allow 5 to qualify as hosts either, as others have pointed out. Think this is more a hopeful punt at a debt reduction strategy by the FAI more than anything else. There won't be a GAA element involved either for this very reason, although that won't stop articles speculating about Croke Park, Salthill, PUC or whatever yer having yerself. I'd imagine that in FAI land, they would see this gig as Lansdowne only, and already have the Europa league final from a few years ago to back it up. They will also have the Euro 2020 behind them by the time the bid gets serious (or not).
As the Nordies have not got a suitable venue as yet, we can presume they are only included as it would have looked poor of England to leave them out. Maybe they could play games at a refurbished Casement Park, that would go down well with the Windsor brigade........
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Posted By: Borussia
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 3:32am
How many games would be played at Dr Cullen Park in Carlow ?
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Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 9:01am
Borussia wrote:
How many games would be played at Dr Cullen Park in Carlow ? | Just the opening match (The Priests and Nathan Carter will sing beforehand) 2 quarter finals and 3rd/4th place match.
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Posted By: The White Cafu
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 9:29am
Jackman Park please
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Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 9:44am
Would love to see Germany vs Argentina in Donaghmede Park
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Posted By: Borussia
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 9:47am
lassassinblanc wrote:
Would love to see Germany vs Argentina in Donaghmede Park
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Already been scheduled for Eircom Park.
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Posted By: Floreat Ultonia
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 9:51am
deise316 wrote:
The only reason England need anyone at all is to shore up votes from FA's they might not have great relationships with, they would probably hope Ire/NI/Sco/Wal could help persuade some of those to vote that way
As the Nordies have not got a suitable venue as yet, we can presume they are only included as it would have looked poor of England to leave them out. |
Disagree. Why would including Scotland, Wales and NI in an English bid attract any support from other FIFA members- even before you factor in the possibility of that bid getting 4 automatic qualifying places?
As per your second point. The politicking is likely to be WITHIN Britain, to aim for nationwide support for the bid- and maybe broadly the Government.
Maybe they could play games at a refurbished Casement Park, that would go down well with the Windsor brigade... |
Current capacities: Windsor 18,000 seats
Casement 0 seats (which may not change- local objections remain and Ulster GAA aren't that bothered about a big new stadium in Belfast)
If the British bid is a goer, it's as likely that either
a) they'll bend the rules so that a slightly expanded Windsor is allowed in with say 25,000 seats, or
b) NI/ the IFA will get a consolation prize of say a women's or men's youth tournament
As for the politicking in South America: Paraguay is a large, poor country with limited infrastructure. Uruguay's domestic football is almost exclusively in the capital. Those two with Argentina may simply be unable to run the thing, which clearly increases England/ Britain's chances.
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 1:00pm
Maybe we will be a united ireland by then with the football ran by the original football association the IFA
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 1:29pm
In the event of a United Ireland, I would still want two football teams.
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Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 1:34pm
cildaratown wrote:
loads think Argentina / Uruguay are the favorites...which they might be due to the 100 year anniversary. |
That would actually be an amazing tournament.
I’d actually rather England go for the 2034 edition, and they are one of the few countries that could potentially make a solo run for it, provided the quality of stadiums is permitted to be varied and that cities with two stadiums or three might be permitted.
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Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 1:59pm
Het-field wrote:
cildaratown wrote:
loads think Argentina / Uruguay are the favorites...which they might be due to the 100 year anniversary. |
That would actually be an amazing tournament.
I’d actually rather England go for the 2034 edition, and they are one of the few countries that could potentially make a solo run for it, provided the quality of stadiums is permitted to be varied and that cities with two stadiums or three might be permitted. |
Well by 2034 it will probably be a 64 Team Tournament so I'd say they'll relax the hosting criteria by then
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Posted By: DUBLIN DOC
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2018 at 2:04pm
pre Madonna wrote:
In the event of a United Ireland, I would still want two football teams. | Considering there isn’t even 1 fckin Team on this island atm that would be some going
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Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 1:18pm
If 2030 WC bid is successful, grounds like Old Trafford may not get games as the area around the pitch is too tight....not enough room for photographers etc
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Posted By: lassassinblanc
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 1:45pm
GB 1HughJarse wrote:
If 2030 WC bid is successful, grounds like Old Trafford may not get games as the area around the pitch is too tight....not enough room for photographers etc |
Victoria Stadium definitely won't be on any British stadiums so
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Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 4:26pm
That is nonsense. You simply position the photographers in the first few rows of seats or, alternatively, you take the seats out for the duration of the tournament. It is not difficult to do. They took a heap of seats out to put in wheelchair areas over the last few years, to comply with new regulations. It can be done relatively easily.
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Posted By: Charlton's Child
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 6:25pm
Yea couldn’t believe when I read it Anfield was mentioned as well. I think the main issue was the run off zone around the pitch doesn’t meet Fifa standards . You’d have to imagine work would be carried out on these stadiums in order to comply. Would be mad having a wood cup in England and not using those stadiums
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Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 7:48pm
SuperDave84 wrote:
That is nonsense. You simply position the photographers in the first few rows of seats or, alternatively, you take the seats out for the duration of the tournament. It is not difficult to do. They took a heap of seats out to put in wheelchair areas over the last few years, to comply with new regulations. It can be done relatively easily.
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FIFA = Nonsense
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Posted By: PanteirA
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 10:31pm
GB 1HughJarse wrote:
If 2030 WC bid is successful, grounds like Old Trafford may not get games as the area around the pitch is too tight....not enough room for photographers etc | Is this the reason modern football stadiums are so far from the pitch? I hate that
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Posted By: pre Madonna
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 10:59pm
PanteirA wrote:
GB 1HughJarse wrote:
If 2030 WC bid is successful, grounds like Old Trafford may not get games as the area around the pitch is too tight....not enough room for photographers etc | Is this the reason modern football stadiums are so far from the pitch? I hate that |
I always assumed it was to do with the advertising hoardings.
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2019 at 11:48pm
No way we'd hold it. Pipe dream
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Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2019 at 12:06pm
Yeah me too, Fifa competitions usually have 2 rows of hoardings these days. One with the sponsors, and the next with the branding/logos
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Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2021 at 11:04pm
Joint Bid feasibility study confirmed
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2021/0301/1200279-ireland-set-to-be-part-of-bid-for-2030-fifa-world-cup/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2021/0301/1200279-ireland-set-to-be-part-of-bid-for-2030-fifa-world-cup/
Hard to see it not going to South America given it'll be 100th anniversary of the 1st one
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Posted By: sid waddell
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2021 at 11:13pm
Denis Irwin wrote:
Joint Bid feasibility study confirmed
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2021/0301/1200279-ireland-set-to-be-part-of-bid-for-2030-fifa-world-cup/" rel="nofollow - https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2021/0301/1200279-ireland-set-to-be-part-of-bid-for-2030-fifa-world-cup/
Hard to see it not going to South America given it'll be 100th anniversary of the 1st one
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Money talks
The Brits have learned their lesson since 2010 and the failed expedition of the Three Lions to Zurich
The only thing that can scupper a British Isles victory is Irish involvement in the bid
"Here's a field, lads, and a stadium you're banned from playing in"
You'd imagine the Scots will have our cards well and truly marked this time after the "bid" for Euro 2008
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 12:16am
Think there are too many voiced in this bid. 5 associations is just too much. There would hardly be 5 automatic qualifiers would there? Or would if be an England tournament and they get the spot but will also use like 2 stadia in Scotland, 1 in Wales, 1 in NI and 2 in Ireland. And then just if we also qualify on our own merit then we would get home matches? Similar to past rugby World cups
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Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 12:20am
Waste of time. We’ll never get this.
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Posted By: coyne
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 12:30am
t_rAndy wrote:
Think there are too many voiced in this bid. 5 associations is just too much. There would hardly be 5 automatic qualifiers would there? Or would if be an England tournament and they get the spot but will also use like 2 stadia in Scotland, 1 in Wales, 1 in NI and 2 in Ireland. And then just if we also qualify on our own merit then we would get home matches? Similar to past rugby World cups |
All 2030 bids are going to be joint bids so there's expected to be no automatic qualifications for this one.
South American nations of Uruguay, Paraguay, Argentina and Chile Joint African bid of Morocco with Algeria and Tunisia Spain and Portugal Scandanavian joint bid of Norway, Sweden and Denmark and finally the baltic joint bid of Romania, Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia.
I'd imagine the South American nations are the firm favourites with it being 100 years since the first WC in Uruguay.
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Posted By: Cabra Hoop
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 12:39am
Would be great, real Champagne Football...
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Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 7:27am
we will win it before we co host it
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Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 7:51am
coyne wrote:
t_rAndy wrote:
Think there are too many voiced in this bid. 5 associations is just too much. There would hardly be 5 automatic qualifiers would there? Or would if be an England tournament and they get the spot but will also use like 2 stadia in Scotland, 1 in Wales, 1 in NI and 2 in Ireland. And then just if we also qualify on our own merit then we would get home matches? Similar to past rugby World cups |
All 2030 bids are going to be joint bids so there's expected to be no automatic qualifications for this one.
South American nations of Uruguay, Paraguay, Argentina and Chile Joint African bid of Morocco with Algeria and Tunisia Spain and Portugal Scandanavian joint bid of Norway, Sweden and Denmark and finally the baltic joint bid of Romania, Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia.
I'd imagine the South American nations are the firm favourites with it being 100 years since the first WC in Uruguay. |
It’s a fair long walk from the Baltic to Romania Greece and Bulgaria and Serbia. Then again you do like a long walk.
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Posted By: zizu Kilbane
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 7:58am
The Nordies bring absolutely nothing to the table here. They should be jettisoned. 5 associations is too much.
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Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 7:59am
Suppose if it is all similar type joint bids then we may as well through our hats in. The last south america tournament had a lot of issues
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Posted By: Zinedine Kilbane 110
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 8:01am
zizu Kilbane wrote:
The Nordies bring absolutely nothing to the table here. They should be jettisoned. 5 associations is too much. |
It’s an English bid and they are throwing some group games/2nd rounds to Scotland / Wales / NI and Rep of Ireland.
It does seem too many nations.
Keep it simple : England & Scotland for example.
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Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 8:04am
zizu Kilbane wrote:
The Nordies bring absolutely nothing to the table here. They should be jettisoned. 5 associations is too much. |
What about us ffs
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Posted By: Fruice
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 8:33am
I would think if England bail UEFA out for the Euros. This would be a big boost to their chances of hosting 2030
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Posted By: Claret Murph
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 8:42am
zizu Kilbane wrote:
The Nordies bring absolutely nothing to the table here. They should be jettisoned. 5 associations is too much. |
Yer that's my take on it also . Still by the time that comes around i am sure FIFA will have 96 Countries in the finals .
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Posted By: eireland
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 8:58am
Yeah I don't see why the North is included and that just harms the bid. This is probably are only chance of qualifying for a WC too so while SA probably gets it I really hope we do.
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Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 9:01am
zizu Kilbane wrote:
The Nordies bring absolutely nothing to the table here. They should be jettisoned. 5 associations is too much. |
eireland wrote:
Yeah I don't see why the North is included and that just harms the bid. This is probably are only chance of qualifying for a WC too so while SA probably gets it I really hope we do. | FIFA would love that "we bring countries together" angle and the good image it would bring to have games in Dublin and Belfast
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Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 9:03am
Fruice wrote:
I would think if England bail UEFA out for the Euros.This would be a big boost to their chances of hosting 2030 | This is exactly why it's in the news this week. England are likely to be asked to bail out Euro 2020, but they'd hate to think that this half-capacity tournament counts as their tournament and they wouldn't get a chance to host anything for another 40 years. I think they want to get it known that they're looking to host 2030 before the decision for 2020 is made, and to bring that into the negotiations for 2020.
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Posted By: Fruice
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 9:16am
What capacity is Windsor Park? Surely its below the 40,000 all seater lever required. Casement park might be done by the then.
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Posted By: Fruice
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 9:19am
Shedite wrote:
Fruice wrote:
I would think if England bail UEFA out for the Euros.This would be a big boost to their chances of hosting 2030 | This is exactly why it's in the news this week. England are likely to be asked to bail out Euro 2020, but they'd hate to think that this half-capacity tournament counts as their tournament and they wouldn't get a chance to host anything for another 40 years. I think they want to get it known that they're looking to host 2030 before the decision for 2020 is made, and to bring that into the negotiations for 2020. |
And to be fair the would be foolish not to this is a huge card to have.
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Posted By: ConorMac77
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 9:43am
Fruice wrote:
What capacity is Windsor Park?Surely its below the 40,000 all seater lever required. Casement park might be done by the then.
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Well below that minimum - only 18k - and its only recently been refurbished. So that's surely a non-runner.
Casement could be done by then but not sure what the capacity will be. Even so, we're left sweating on the GAA to agree to make it (and other gaelic venues) available for the tournament...in the middle of the championship season.
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Posted By: Het-field
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 9:47am
Shedite wrote:
England are likely to be asked to bail out Euro 2020, but they'd hate to think that this half-capacity tournament counts as their tournament and they wouldn't get a chance to host anything for another 40 years. |
It would be terribly sad if that happened. However, I still think they could bid for a WC. Don't forget, France held a WC and EC within 20 years of each other. While America will have had the WC (albeit shared in 2026) on two occasions in just over 30 years.
I think England suffer more from the internal politics of selection.
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Posted By: zizu Kilbane
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 9:59am
We bring 2 world class stadiums to the table. They have nothing to offer, none of their stadia meet the criteria
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Posted By: wexfordman1
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 10:05am
Be very interesting the 100th anniversary because it they give it to South American bid because of that Italy will want 2034 and so on they might make the decision no anniversaries.
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Posted By: thebronze14
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 10:07am
coyne wrote:
t_rAndy wrote:
Think there are too many voiced in this bid. 5 associations is just too much. There would hardly be 5 automatic qualifiers would there? Or would if be an England tournament and they get the spot but will also use like 2 stadia in Scotland, 1 in Wales, 1 in NI and 2 in Ireland. And then just if we also qualify on our own merit then we would get home matches? Similar to past rugby World cups |
All 2030 bids are going to be joint bids so there's expected to be no automatic qualifications for this one.
South American nations of Uruguay, Paraguay, Argentina and Chile Joint African bid of Morocco with Algeria and Tunisia Spain and Portugal Scandanavian joint bid of Norway, Sweden and Denmark and finally the baltic joint bid of Romania, Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia.
I'd imagine the South American nations are the firm favourites with it being 100 years since the first WC in Uruguay. |
Baltic one would be brilliant!
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Posted By: 9fingers
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 10:12am
zizu Kilbane wrote:
We bring 2 world class stadiums to the table. They have nothing to offer, none of their stadia meet the criteria |
Croke Park isn’t ours, realistically the FAI bring very little to the table and truth be told we shouldn’t be near this bid. It’s a complete wasn’t of time, effort & money that could all be much better invested in our structures. Same old FAI
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Posted By: Drumcondra 69er
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2021 at 10:14am
zizu Kilbane wrote:
The Nordies bring absolutely nothing to the table here. They should be jettisoned. 5 associations is too much. |
Be reunified by then. 😉
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