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corkery 
Ray Houghton 
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It would make sense for the GAA to open up to soccer, they'd make a rake of money.
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SByrne24
Jack Charlton
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Posted: 22 Oct 2016 at 1:17am |
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You're comparing an amateur sport v a professional sport. There is a great amount of skill involved in Gaelic football as there is in hurling. Don't be pathetic. |
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schillaci
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Posted: 21 Oct 2016 at 9:08pm |
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GAA is f**king sh*te. You only have to look at what they do for 'training' to see how sh*te it is. They just hoof the ball back and forward to each other to practice kicking and catching and do endless handpassing drills. Absolute muck.
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane
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Posted: 21 Oct 2016 at 5:10pm |
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The GAA is the establishment sporting organisation in this country not rugby, athletics, soccer, rowing etc. All given massive grants, plots of land etc.
So it's no surprise that even your bog standard average GAA club would have better facilities than a lot of the top soccer teams in certain counties. I'm not asking my local GAA club to give my team discount on beers in the clubhouse, the use of their players gym etc. But to allow us use of half the senior pitch and floodlights for an hour a week during the off season, which we would pay them handsomely for. TBF Carlow Rugby Club have allowed numerous soccer clubs use of their pitches and facilities  We're blessed we have Carlow IT on our doorstep, they have some of the best soccer facilities in the country but to train there for 3 hours a week it's costing €160.
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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SByrne24
Jack Charlton
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Posted: 21 Oct 2016 at 4:40pm |
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I never had an issue with this as a child or teenager and I played Rugby, GAA, football the later of the two I played at a high standard.
I come from a small rural community our GAA club and football club work hand in hand, most in the club would of played for the soccer club. The issue seems to keep popping up, I always found those at the head of rugby clubs the easiest to work with. Football and GAA feel they are at war with each other competing for the attendance of players we're a fairly small country, both sports are played at different times too! It's not hard for the coaches of the local clubs to agree a training schedule together taking into account players need to study for exams, and they'll also have school training I know in our school we'd of trained at 7am so fellas could of got back home for the GAA training or football. GAA attendances are dropping for various reasons, prices mainly.. it is an amateur sport, it is part of the admiration for the game it is also possibly the last true sport played purely for the love of it however the GAA seem adamant to continue to hike up prices, thats before taking into account the unfair distribution of money throughout the counties, clubs. Mayo should receive as much for their hurling as Kilkenny does and Waterford the same amount of funding as the Dublin footballers get, but that doesn't appear to be the case. This nonsense of not letting football clubs use facilities has to change also, purely end up hating Gaelic football and the GAA due to it, Rugby clubs throughout the country rent their facilities to all sports even in a unionist areas you will find a GAA club using a their local rugby clubs facilities if they don't have them. Surely a common sense approach fixes, and irons out all these issues. If not I only see the support of GAA declining slowly as time goes on, rugby is starting to be introduced into catholic grammar schools up north now too 3 sports to pick from and two are war with each other. Stupid. Edited by SByrne24 - 21 Oct 2016 at 4:43pm |
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roverstillidie
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Posted: 21 Oct 2016 at 10:35am |
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The point is that GAA clubs aren't even allowed make a decision after weighing up the pros and cons due to the policy of the organisation, which is happy to make money on Croke Park, especially since there will be less and less central funding. |
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane
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Posted: 21 Oct 2016 at 10:32am |
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Firstly, my local GAA club owes massive money so they are deep in debt. So they should be looking at ways of making an income in the off season. Secondly, the soccer team I manage (myself included) have about 14/15 members of this Gaa club from a panel of 20 players. Thirdly, it's self inflicted as to why the Gaa club are losing players at an alarming rate due to the clan mentality in it currently. This isn't our fault as a soccer club. I would actually communicate with the local GAA club in regard to training and match days no bother to help ease the problem of lads wanting to play both sports. So it's not as if we're being the impossible ones to deal with here. |
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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tony grealish
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Posted: 21 Oct 2016 at 8:33am |
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 While this might be a little harsh on some of the more progressive GAA clubs my own experience of dealing with them is that, for many, the sense of entitlement and 'grab all' mentality is still alive and well. |
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willmcc83
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Posted: 21 Oct 2016 at 8:03am |
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And if the GAA clubs are struggling why from their perspective should they help out the thriving soccer clubs? |
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Time To Get Behind Mick & The Team
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane
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I've noticed a rapid decline at adult level in my own club over the last few years, at one stage around 2011 or 2012 my village club had a Senior, Intermediate, Junior A and Junior C team competing in Championship football. There's only a struggling Senior team and a bog standard Junior A team now. Lads are walking away from Gaelic football in the locality in their droves, I myself was a very passionate club man but from seeing the politics, the clan mentality, the blatant pull on team selections on match days etc I had to walk away from it. The fact the GAA club's field and floodlights are rarely used from October to March to point blank refuse to allow many of it's members who happen to play for the local soccer team to even use it one night a week while getting well paid for it, just burnt all bridges with me and that GAA club. There is genuine fear down the country about soccer taking over, you can see it first in hand in Carlow Town and just over the bridge in Laois how big these soccer clubs are growing and you have established GAA clubs like Graiguecullen, The Blues etc really struggling to get even 15 boys up training of a summers evening. Yet my own soccer club between two teams would have minimum 25+ a night training mid week in Winter. |
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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Doyler1993
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http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/louth-gaa-counting-cost-of-dundalks-incredible-rise-35145527.html
About time they're getting a taste of their own medicine
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roverstillidie
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Posted: 20 Oct 2016 at 4:42pm |
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And they got lashed out of it for doing so.
If an individual club wants to rent to another sport they should be allowed. If they chose not to they should be allowed. But why Croke Park do not allow them to make decisions of this nature while reserving the right to do it is the question you should be asking. Edited by roverstillidie - 20 Oct 2016 at 5:03pm |
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Croftman
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Posted: 20 Oct 2016 at 4:41pm |
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You're right, it's not and they don't have to. What people are saying is that they should, especially during the winter months and make a few bob for themselves whilst giving other sports some good facilities to train or play on. Running a GAA club is an expensive business so wouldn't it be great to be able to make some extra income from renting out their astro facilities or the likes and using the money to help run the clubs?
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Some people just deserve a slap
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cm79
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Posted: 20 Oct 2016 at 4:07pm |
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Of course I read it, the third paragraph said that a Limerick club let a soccer team use their facilities and also hosted a rugby blitz.
I merely pointed out that you were wrong in saying that no sharing goes on outside of Dublin. I still don't see why people think the GAA should open their grounds to everyone, its not a charity.
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Croftman
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My local GAA club refuses point blank to let us use their facilities even one evening a week during the winter despite my soccer club offering to pay a hefty fee to use them. Never mind the fact our soccer club has a massive amount of members belonging to Gaa club.... The GAA club have a massive debt but yet wont entertain the idea of getting extra income from allowing our soccer club to train there. [/QUOTE] They would be breaking the rules of their own association if they did so and would liable for a fine. I believe a GAA club in Longford received a fine of approx €3,000 recently so this would do little to help your GAA's club financial situation. I agree that the rule is draconian and should be amended but you can hardly blame your local GAA club for merely complying a rule it's obliged to uphold. [/QUOTE]
I think that was for allowing a Jamie Carragher Summer Camp be played on their astro, near sure he paid the fine for them afterwards? In fairness there's dozens of clubs allowing their facilities to be used for non-GAA sports and have been for years
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roverstillidie
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Posted: 20 Oct 2016 at 4:03pm |
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Did you read the link? It completely proves my point. Grassroots GAA units cannot rent their facilities to 'foreign games' whereas the GAA can rent Croke Park out if and when they want.
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cm79
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Posted: 20 Oct 2016 at 4:01pm |
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Wrong again |
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roverstillidie
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Posted: 20 Oct 2016 at 3:40pm |
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This was a once off deal. Huge argument in the GAA as to why Croker can cash in but local clubs can't.
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