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Denis Irwin wrote: Or maybe it's because your bitter and have a chip on your shoulder about him. Roy not world class according to yourself

Find the quote where I said Roy Keane wasn't world class.

Trap junior wrote: Denis Irwin wrote: Or maybe it's because your bitter and have a chip on your shoulder about him. Roy not world class according to yourself Find the quote where I said Roy Keane wasn't world class.

doherty wrote:

Trap junior wrote: Denis Irwin wrote: Or maybe it's because your bitter and have a chip on your shoulder about him. Roy not world class according to yourself Find the quote where I said Roy Keane wasn't world class.

Trap junior wrote: Roy Keane had average ability. He couldn't pass anything other than a simple ball, he wasn't particularly gifted at shooting or free kicks. I am not being a hater because that is true. He had the best concentration, positional sense and engine of any midfielder in England at the time. He had huge determination and willpower to perform every game. Thats what stood him out above the rest. Not talent. He made very few errors in a game if any and just did the simple stuff extremely well and was consistent and reliable. He was a no nonsense player but to say he was supremely gifted is wrong.

You also classifeid him as a journeyman

Denis Irwin wrote: Trap junior wrote: Denis Irwin wrote: Or maybe it's because your bitter and have a chip on your shoulder about him. Roy not world class according to yourself Find the quote where I said Roy Keane wasn't world class. Trap junior wrote: Roy Keane had average ability. He couldn't pass anything other than a simple ball, he wasn't particularly gifted at shooting or free kicks. I am not being a hater because that is true. He had the best concentration, positional sense and engine of any midfielder in England at the time. He had huge determination and willpower to perform every game. Thats what stood him out above the rest. Not talent. He made very few errors in a game if any and just did the simple stuff extremely well and was consistent and reliable. He was a no nonsense player but to say he was supremely gifted is wrong. You also classifeid him as a journeyman

Dear oh dear.  Maybe you dont understand what I wrote there but let me explain.  Roy Keane had average (journeyman) talent/ability but his overall package made him a brilliant player. ''Stood him out above the rest'' Does that quote actually tell you something there? I dunno if you ever played sport (any sport) but talent is only portion of the pie of being a top sportsman. There are ultra talented kids that never made it while other less talented kids made it because of other attributes.

So let me clarify this so you can understand it better.  Roy Keane was one of the best midfielders in the world. I never once. NOT ONCE said he wasn't. What I said is he wasn't naturally gifted in the way others were and that his other attributes elevated him into exulted status as a player.

But feel free to say 'I'm bitter and hate Keane' as its easier to type that out than an actual considered response.

I never said he was a journeyman player


Edited by Trap junior - 10 Jul 2015 at 3:47pm

So he's average ability/journeyman according to yourself yet your still trying to claim you never said he wasn't World class

Denis Irwin wrote: So he's average ability/journeyman according to yourself yet your still trying to claim you never said he wasn't World class

Oh my God. Are you actually trying to be dumb?   If you don't read my replies I'm not going to bother replying.

Realistically Hughton or McCarthy are the only options if MON goes

Edited by erimus - 10 Jul 2015 at 3:54pm

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