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Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by LO SCIENZIATO LO SCIENZIATO wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Firstly, thanks to those on the mandate team for their work on behalf of all of us.

Secondly, for those on here who are members of SCs and who do support the idea of all fans being treated equally, would you not submit an agenda item to one of your SC meetings asking about this topic ? It's not as if the heads of the SCs can deny hearing about it as it's out in the open they were contacted.

Would I also be right in assuming that Spirit of 88 didn't respond ? I'm not having a go at those lads if that was the case. I'd just find it strange given that one of their original state aims was to try and change the system from the inside.

Classof88 you mean? you be doing well to get a response from those f**knuts. funny thing about it is some members of classof88 have financially contributed to the protest this weekend when they are part of the problem. the hypocrisy is unbelievable. 
I think most in SCs want a fair system , then again maybe those who run SCs want best for their members , I am not sure .

Well, the evidence would say that most SCs don't want a fair system.
Maybe those who run SCs want best for themselves ?
And even if it was the case that they want what's best for their SC, well that what happens when their SC falls out of favour with the dear leader ?


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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by LO SCIENZIATO LO SCIENZIATO wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Firstly, thanks to those on the mandate team for their work on behalf of all of us.

Secondly, for those on here who are members of SCs and who do support the idea of all fans being treated equally, would you not submit an agenda item to one of your SC meetings asking about this topic ? It's not as if the heads of the SCs can deny hearing about it as it's out in the open they were contacted.

Would I also be right in assuming that Spirit of 88 didn't respond ? I'm not having a go at those lads if that was the case. I'd just find it strange given that one of their original state aims was to try and change the system from the inside.

Classof88 you mean? you be doing well to get a response from those f**knuts. funny thing about it is some members of classof88 have financially contributed to the protest this weekend when they are part of the problem. the hypocrisy is unbelievable. 
I think most in SCs want a fair system , then again maybe those who run SCs want best for their members , I am not sure .

Well, the evidence would say that most SCs don't want a fair system.
Maybe those who run SCs want best for themselves ?
And even if it was the case that they want what's best for their SC, well that what happens when their SC falls out of favour with the dear leader ?


Borussia I am in a SC , I signed up to the mandate and I want a fair system for all .
 
 
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Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by LO SCIENZIATO LO SCIENZIATO wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Firstly, thanks to those on the mandate team for their work on behalf of all of us.

Secondly, for those on here who are members of SCs and who do support the idea of all fans being treated equally, would you not submit an agenda item to one of your SC meetings asking about this topic ? It's not as if the heads of the SCs can deny hearing about it as it's out in the open they were contacted.

Would I also be right in assuming that Spirit of 88 didn't respond ? I'm not having a go at those lads if that was the case. I'd just find it strange given that one of their original state aims was to try and change the system from the inside.

Classof88 you mean? you be doing well to get a response from those f**knuts. funny thing about it is some members of classof88 have financially contributed to the protest this weekend when they are part of the problem. the hypocrisy is unbelievable. 
I think most in SCs want a fair system , then again maybe those who run SCs want best for their members , I am not sure .

Well, the evidence would say that most SCs don't want a fair system.
Maybe those who run SCs want best for themselves ?
And even if it was the case that they want what's best for their SC, well that what happens when their SC falls out of favour with the dear leader ?


Borussia I am in a SC , I signed up to the mandate and I want a fair system for all .
 
 

I wasn't having a go at you personally so apologies if it came across that way - My points do still stand though. If members of SCs haven't been informed about the approach from the Mandate Team here about looking for a fair system then you would have to ask question marks about those running SCs.
And a question for you Murph (Let's keep this general) : If members of SCs are interested in getting a fair system, do you know a reason why members would not then ask for this to be added to the agenda for one of their meetings and discussed ? 

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The Chairman of the Crisc is from Risccw Murph.

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Originally posted by LO SCIENZIATO LO SCIENZIATO wrote:

Originally posted by gufct gufct wrote:

The Chairman of the Crisc is from Risccw Murph.

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Originally posted by gufct gufct wrote:

The Chairman of the Crisc is from Risccw Murph.
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If the Gibraltar game actually goes ahead in Gibraltar and fans get only 40% of the tickets, with more going to the football family, it will be interesting to see the reaction from the SCs.....
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The figure they're standing over is actually 30% believe it or not...
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

If the Gibraltar game actually goes ahead in Gibraltar and fans get only 40% of the tickets, with more going to the football family, it will be interesting to see the reaction from the SCs.....
 
it most certainly will Smile
 
Originally posted by Hickster74 Hickster74 wrote:

The figure they're standing over is actually 30% believe it or not...
 
yes its hard to believe 30% goes to FD/Sc's
 
So on a 2000 capacity at 5% that 100 tickets to FAI Confused
 
15 to Abbey
55 to football Family
20 to supporters Clubs*
10 to fans Direct *
 
* based on a 1000/2000 FD/SC
 
Now the FAI are also entiltled to another 200 tickets for players officials etc so could be interesting
 
If only other SC's and the Confederation  had given support for the mandate push from 30% to 70% who knows where we might of been ...............
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You'd need to wisdom of Solomon to decide who gets what in that scenario
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SC and FD grouping is 40% as CRISC  got a 5%  rise  from the initial 35%  at start of the last campaign. I'm sure all fans representatives will have meetings with FAI before start of campaign as happened in the past and will push for a rise. There is not a hope of getting to 70%. Hopefully  45 to 50  every little helps.
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Originally posted by Missy Missy wrote:

SC and FD grouping is 40% as CRISC  got a 5%  rise  from the initial 35%  at start of the last campaign. I'm sure all fans representatives will have meetings with FAI before start of campaign as happened in the past and will push for a rise. There is not a hope of getting to 70%. Hopefully  45 to 50  every little helps.

Says a lot about the FAI when people are making statements like that. 
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Originally posted by Missy Missy wrote:

SC and FD grouping is 40% as CRISC  got a 5%  rise  from the initial 35%  at start of the last campaign. I'm sure all fans representatives will have meetings with FAI before start of campaign as happened in the past and will push for a rise. There is not a hope of getting to 70%. Hopefully  45 to 50  every little helps.
 
not sure that is right but will try an get clarification
 
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You'd need to wisdom of Solomon to decide who gets what in that scenario
 
or you implement a universal scheme a 2 year old could understand with simple criteria which everybody can sign up to the basic principle being the more aways games you go to the more 'entitled' to tickets you are Big smile
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by Missy Missy wrote:

SC and FD grouping is 40% as CRISC  got a 5%  rise  from the initial 35%  at start of the last campaign. I'm sure all fans representatives will have meetings with FAI before start of campaign as happened in the past and will push for a rise. There is not a hope of getting to 70%. Hopefully  45 to 50  every little helps.

Says a lot about the FAI when people are making statements like that. 
It should be even higher than 70%. I’d say most countries have over 70%.
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Eventually we should get to 70% but there is no hope of jumping 30% over night especially with Gibraltar away looming 

Edited by Missy - 14 Dec 2018 at 4:54pm
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Originally posted by Missy Missy wrote:

Eventually we should get to 70 but there is bmno hope of jumjumping 30% over night especially with Gibraltar away loodming 

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YBIG Independent Supporters Mandate Group - Statement on increased ticket allocation for away games

As all members of the YBIG Independent Supporters Mandate will be aware, we have spent the last year and a half meeting and engaging with the FAI on a number of issues.

Chief of these issues has been the below:

Firstly, to increase the current Fans Direct / Supporters Clubs allocation from 40% to a more realistic 70%. This is more comparable to other associations, some of whom reward fans with over 90% of ticket allocations. This would leave 15% for the football family and 15% for the FAI's selected travel partner.

Secondly, for a universal scheme to be brought in where all members of the scheme are treated equally. The abiding principle would be that the more away games you attend the more entitled you are to away tickets, provided you also hold a season ticket.  This would apply to independent fans and Supporters Clubs members alike.

As a result of these meetings, in addition to the FAI’s meetings with the Confederation of Republic of Ireland Supporters Clubs, the FAI have informed us that they are increasing the percentage of away tickets available to Fans Direct and Supporters Clubs from the existing 40% to 65%.

Although this is below our proposed 70%, we consider it a very positive step forward and welcome the FAI proposal. We believe that this decision is a reflection of the work that ourselves and the Association have undertaken to rebuild a working relationship.

On the second point, we have also been told that a more open scheme is being worked on and will be discussed in more detail at our scheduled February meeting. Obviously, we will not be commenting on this until we have had time to examine any new scheme in detail.

We look forward to continuing discussions with the FAI and CRISC in this regard.

As per our mandate, we will also continue to raise and engage with the FAI on any matters that affect independent supporters. Minutes from our January meeting with the FAI will follow in due course.

May we also take this opportunity to wish our members, all Ireland fans and the team, management and staff a very happy and successful 2019.

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