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    Posted: 03 Dec 2015 at 10:44am
Being proposed at today's FIFA meeting.

Would be more teams from Asia,Africa and Concacaf

If they're doing that though they'd surely have to give a full spot to Oceiana
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It would be a disaster IMO. Perfect set up with 32 teams at the moment. Changing the split from 32-16-8-4-2 is ridiculous.
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I don't necessarily disagree with the expansion but Europe should get 3 additional places at least if they were to do that. Asia already have too many;
 
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EUROPE 3
CAF 1
CONMEBOL 1
AFC 1/2 or 1
OFC 1/2 or 0
 
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Yeah, not a massive fan of this idea to be honest.
 
It will be interesting however to see how the Euros goes next summer with that expansion. If the play-offs are anything to go by the obvious worry would be that the standard is being diluted a fair bit.

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Also, this has come 16 years too late for us to be the 33rd team!

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Great idea and ive been saying for ages this is needed. A 32 team event is quite small really.

What I dont agree with is reports of 32 extra matches. No need for that many.

Instead: 10 groups of 4. The ten group winners and the 6 best 2nd places go through to the knock out. Thats just 24 extra matches, and expands the tournament by 6 days.
Only comes round every 4 years, I'd gladly take an extra 6 days. And the extra week wont inconvenience ppl too much, given its not happening every season.

Europe should be entitled to at least two of the extra places. Can see Europe getting maybe just one. Even still, increases our chance of qualifying.

Very positive development, this, for a proper festival of football.

Theres 24 teams in the Euros; 32 in the world cup from 206 nations is paltry.

Theres even 20 teams in the rugby world cup. The football world cup should be dwarfing that event. Will easily find 8 extra teams who are competitive.

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Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Also, this has come 16 years too late for us to be the 33rd team!
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Nonetheless, I think it's a ridiculous idea, it's grand the way it is. I'd imagine they'd still have 8 groups with the top 2 going through to the knockout stages but imagine the fixture headache that would be in store in the group stages, they're busy enough as it is with 3 games per day nearly every day until the last round of games (2 x day).
 
That's another thing, by the way. If they set it up with 5 teams per group, you're going to be left with 1 team with no game on the last day having played their last game a few days earlier leaving the other teams with an advantage of knowing what's needed ahead of their final games. Another Anschluss on our hands possibly?
 
As I said, it's a ridiculous idea, just asking for needless problems. If it ain't broke...
 
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Stupid idea.
 
Like a 24 team Euros. Stupid.
 
Should be LESS teams from outside Europe/SA not more.
 
What do they do there, apart from beat Scotland ?
 
How many have made the Quarter Finals (without bribing referees) over the years ?
 
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Increasing the size of both the Euros and World Cup are terrible ideas in my opinion. Dilutes the prestige of the tournament.

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Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Increasing the size of both the Euros and World Cup are terrible ideas in my opinion. Dilutes the prestige of the tournament.

I agree. As glad as I am that we got into Euro 2016 because it went from 16 to 24, I'd prefer if the tournament was only 16 teams.
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People hate change. Thats all.

Id say ppl were complaining when the world cup was expanded from 24 to 32 teams
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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Increasing the size of both the Euros and World Cup are terrible ideas in my opinion. Dilutes the prestige of the tournament.

I agree. As glad as I am that we got into Euro 2016 because it went from 16 to 24, I'd prefer if the tournament was only 16 teams.
 
16 Team Euros was tougher than the WC though, 24 gives a good mix some big teams missed out and some smaller teams got in. I'm expecting a great tournament even if I would have structured it differently.
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Split on this, it is a world cup after all and we have way more than our fair share of spots on most criteria, what harm is it really if the likes of afcon winners zambia get in? Does a 14th european deserve to get in over an 8th African Team? I would have thought not
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Originally posted by rolo rolo wrote:

People hate change. Thats all.

Id say ppl were complaining when the world cup was expanded from 24 to 32 teams
Think of it this way Rolo 53 teams were in the Euro's and 24 teams will be in France .
That's close to half even I think it's a bit daft so many teams are there .
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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Increasing the size of both the Euros and World Cup are terrible ideas in my opinion. Dilutes the prestige of the tournament.

I agree. As glad as I am that we got into Euro 2016 because it went from 16 to 24, I'd prefer if the tournament was only 16 teams.

I think the world cup is grand at 32. There is a lot of games already and I don't think more games will make it any better.

I think 24 Euro teams is a good thing as it was nearly as hard to get to the Euro's (16 teams) as to get to the WC (13) and it should be easier to get to your continents football competition. Maybe it was too early to adopt it as the standard will be diluted but in 8/12 years the standard will be better. 
All the teams that qualified for the Euro's are in the top 40 in the world.

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We wouldn't be going to France only for the expanded Euros.  We are definitely one of the countries that will continue to benefit from the 8 extra places.  We won't qualify every time but our chances will be significantly higher whereas the likes of Germany, Spain etc will qualify almost every time anyway.  

A World Cup is much harder to get to.  Even 1 or 2  extra places for UEFA will help.   
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I dunno. It cheapens the achievement of qualifying. Leave it at 32 and should have left it as 16 for the Euros.
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