With hindsight was sacking Kenny a mistake? |
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Inkennywetrust
Phil Babb Joined: 19 Nov 2023 Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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Posted: 19 Apr 2024 at 2:08pm |
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We've seen over the past few months how the job is far less desirable to the market than many thought.
Between the state of the squad, the expected ~700k budget, a demanding fanbase expecting results and the instability within the FAI the position has been difficult to fill with prospect after prospect ruling themselves out. We now face into the Nations League with uncertainty over whether we'll even have a manager in place and in a best case scenario we'll have a manager with very limited preparation time. Knowing all that, would another campaign with Stephen Kenny have been the worst thing? He still had the respect of the players and we were competitive in every game. Can we realistically improve on him with a limited budget given how undesirable the position is these days?
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Claret Murph
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The problem was JD giving it to Kenny on the cheap , like it has been said a thousand times he was so much out of his depth , and has taken us to where we are now .
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Maccatacca
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Kenny was a beaten docket and has shown nothing across his career that would make you think that he would be capable of turning things around.
I am saying this as someone who was pro-Kenny.
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Fitz
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Not a f**king chance. He should’ve been gone long before he was.
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Godzilla
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Nah. His time was up.
We just happen to have a pathetic excuse for a football association called The FAI who botched their managerial search among other things. Edited by Godzilla - 19 Apr 2024 at 2:28pm |
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Het-field
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No. Just because this process has been a mess it doesn’t mean that the Kenny era had run its course. If the FAI had got their man in April there would be no scope for this discussion.
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irishmufc
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6 wins in 29 competitive games. Let that sink in.
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Inkennywetrust
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But seemingly nobody of any great regard believes they can turn things around or the position would be filled by now. It's a reputational hit job that's only desirable by those with zero experience and therefore nothing to lose or mercenaries who'll be the fall guy for the right price. Maybe avoiding relegation in the Nations League and being competitive through Euro qualifying while avoiding hammerings against some of the best teams in the world is the ceiling for Ireland at the moment. We could definitely go lower than the level Kenny had us at.
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greenlad
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Was it not that they didn't renew his contract rather than sack him.......
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greenlad
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Double post....
Edited by greenlad - 19 Apr 2024 at 2:36pm |
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Godzilla
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It's probably going to be difficult for you to remain objective with a username like yours. |
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ButtySugrue
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J89
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Yet was well over paid too. Should have been offered only half what he got. The €205K he got a year as U21s manager was more than double his Dundalk wage which was less than €100K a year but did a percentage of prize money. |
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J89
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In hindsight he should have gotten pushed earlier than he did. At least an interim, even if it was O'Shea would have gotten a few competitive games under his belt rather than two friendlies.
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Godzilla
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Spot anyone you know?
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Maccatacca
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No we can't, for me losing to that Greece team home and way is unacceptable. We have a decent squad of players, granted no good midfielders, but there are many old English gun-slingers who can get this team back grinding out results in the short term. The reason we are taking so long to appoint a head coach / manager is that the public seemingly wants a more expansive, sustainable long-term approach, which I understand having endured years of unwatchable football. |
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Het-field
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Losing 6 games in the one qualification tournament is the end for any manager. Kerr lost two over 1/2 tournaments, while Staunton lost 3 over one. We had become easy to beat and were still scoring from dead balls and headers. After we lost to Armenia this was only going one way.
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Jimmy Raggatip
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I’d have given him a rolling contract and see if he’d have taken it. At the moment we are rudderless and as every week goes by we become less attractive to potential suitors with how amateur the process looks
I’d rather have had Kenny for the upcoming NL than O’Shea for example
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