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I was at the game in 89 against Spain and it was far from a great game.   A terrible match but a great occasion and a great atmosphere.  The Spanish folded that day. 
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I don't think it's too many games, I think the TV companies push too much hype. It's a lovely sunny day and they push Burnley V Watford as not to be missed.

Go out, enjoy the sun, come back to the matches in a week or two,  be grand.
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One live match and match of the day any MOTD2 per weekend is plenty IMO
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

I was at the game in 89 against Spain and it was far from a great game.   A terrible match but a great occasion and a great atmosphere.  The Spanish folded that day. 


It as a great game.  It was not sophisticated and it was on a sh*te pitch but it was good direct football and there were chances created that had the crowd excited.  Certainly wasn't a boring game.  The old back pass rule I think gets unfairly ridiculed.  It was more entertaining when the keeper picked it up and kicjed it from his hands up the pitch and the ball was bouncing around and could go anywhere creating chances.  Ok wasn't great as far as timewasting was concerened but I liked it the way it was tbh.

The problem with modern football I think is all the physicality has disappeared.  A player will go down if he feels as much as a zephyr of wind touch him.  Its pathetic.  Back in the old days they would kick lumps out of each other and nobody went down unless you were actually badly hurt.



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I don't think it's too many games, I think the TV companies push too much hype. It's a lovely sunny day and they push Burnley V Watford as not to be missed.

Go out, enjoy the sun, come back to the matches in a week or two,  be grand.


I tune on just for the craic and analysis as opposed to the game itself these days. 

Football is far too polished a game nowadays.  Too professional, too manicured, too perfect.  Its very uniform and generic across the board and everyone tries to play Barcelona 2011 football.  The game needs a breath of fresh air.  Something different.  A long ball team that kicks the opposition off the pitch.  Just anything bar boring tippy tappy going nowhere football.  Even if such a ugly long ball team was ridiculed by myself I just want something to watch or hate or make it interesting.






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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

I was at the game in 89 against Spain and it was far from a great game.   A terrible match but a great occasion and a great atmosphere.  The Spanish folded that day. 


It as a great game.  It was not sophisticated and it was on a sh*te pitch but it was good direct football and there were chances created that had the crowd excited.  Certainly wasn't a boring game.  The old back pass rule I think gets unfairly ridiculed.  It was more entertaining when the keeper picked it up and kicjed it from his hands up the pitch and the ball was bouncing around and could go anywhere creating chances.  Ok wasn't great as far as timewasting was concerened but I liked it the way it was tbh.



The grass is always greener, but that is some revisionism of sh*te football. I also watched extended highlights of Liverpool v Man United in the 80s by chance about 6 months ago. The pitch was a mud bath but I was shocked at how terrible the football was, and the players of Dalglish, Robson, McGrath and Lawrenson were playing. 


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What was there on back then, one live game a week?
A lot of people would never have watched a full 90 minutes of football. Match of the Day highlights at night

As someone said earlier, now apart from Christmas Day you can watch at least one premier league match a day on TV, most days. 
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

I was at the game in 89 against Spain and it was far from a great game.   A terrible match but a great occasion and a great atmosphere.  The Spanish folded that day. 


It as a great game.  It was not sophisticated and it was on a sh*te pitch but it was good direct football and there were chances created that had the crowd excited.  Certainly wasn't a boring game.  The old back pass rule I think gets unfairly ridiculed.  It was more entertaining when the keeper picked it up and kicjed it from his hands up the pitch and the ball was bouncing around and could go anywhere creating chances.  Ok wasn't great as far as timewasting was concerened but I liked it the way it was tbh.



The grass is always greener, but that is some revisionism of sh*te football. I also watched extended highlights of Liverpool v Man United in the 80s by chance about 6 months ago. The pitch was a mud bath but I was shocked at how terrible the football was, and the players of Dalglish, Robson, McGrath and Lawrenson were playing. 
 



It was more direct but not hoofball.  Good physical entertaining football.  If God had wanted us to keep the ball on the ground he would have made the ball out of iron young man.
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

I was at the game in 89 against Spain and it was far from a great game.   A terrible match but a great occasion and a great atmosphere.  The Spanish folded that day. 


It as a great game.  It was not sophisticated and it was on a sh*te pitch but it was good direct football and there were chances created that had the crowd excited.  Certainly wasn't a boring game.  The old back pass rule I think gets unfairly ridiculed.  It was more entertaining when the keeper picked it up and kicjed it from his hands up the pitch and the ball was bouncing around and could go anywhere creating chances.  Ok wasn't great as far as timewasting was concerened but I liked it the way it was tbh.



The grass is always greener, but that is some revisionism of sh*te football. I also watched extended highlights of Liverpool v Man United in the 80s by chance about 6 months ago. The pitch was a mud bath but I was shocked at how terrible the football was, and the players of Dalglish, Robson, McGrath and Lawrenson were playing. 
 



It was more direct but not hoofball.  Good physical entertaining football.  If God had wanted us to keep the ball on the ground he would have made the ball out of iron young man.

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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

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I was at the game in 89 against Spain and it was far from a great game.   A terrible match but a great occasion and a great atmosphere.  The Spanish folded that day. 


It as a great game.  It was not sophisticated and it was on a sh*te pitch but it was good direct football and there were chances created that had the crowd excited.  Certainly wasn't a boring game.  The old back pass rule I think gets unfairly ridiculed.  It was more entertaining when the keeper picked it up and kicjed it from his hands up the pitch and the ball was bouncing around and could go anywhere creating chances.  Ok wasn't great as far as timewasting was concerened but I liked it the way it was tbh.



The grass is always greener, but that is some revisionism of sh*te football. I also watched extended highlights of Liverpool v Man United in the 80s by chance about 6 months ago. The pitch was a mud bath but I was shocked at how terrible the football was, and the players of Dalglish, Robson, McGrath and Lawrenson were playing. 
 



It was more direct but not hoofball.  Good physical entertaining football.  If God had wanted us to keep the ball on the ground he would have made the ball out of iron young man.

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I just think playing from the back is so in vouge at the moment some team will start with somrthing else soon eoungh , look when you see Luxembourg doing the same then it's time to rethink .
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I just think playing from the back is so in vouge at the moment some team will start with somrthing else soon eoungh , look when you see Luxembourg doing the same then it's time to rethink .
From an Irish international team perspective, we should revert to a nuanced version of JCs philosophy, dont play around the ball in our own half and take unnecessary chances. Play percentages, maximize every set play, organized chaos in the opponents box, put in a few hefty challenges, intimidate the opponents, make them hate to come to play in Dublin. Break their will and that'll allow us to play a bit in the opponents half. A bit revisionist but it's simple to implement and gets results.We can only play a possession based game if we have really good technical players and we dont.
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Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

I just think playing from the back is so in vouge at the moment some team will start with somrthing else soon eoungh , look when you see Luxembourg doing the same then it's time to rethink .
From an Irish international team perspective, we should revert to a nuanced version of JCs philosophy, dont play around the ball in our own half and take unnecessary chances. Play percentages, maximize every set play, organized chaos in the opponents box, put in a few hefty challenges, intimidate the opponents, make them hate to come to play in Dublin. Break their will and that'll allow us to play a bit in the opponents half. A bit revisionist but it's simple to implement and gets results.We can only play a possession based game if we have really good technical players and we dont.

We did that for years and most people wanted the current manager out for playing like that as we apparently had the players to play a better style
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the rose tinted glasses of the 80s here is hilarious.  

I think some people should take up watching pinball
If they like random bounces of the ball. 
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

I just think playing from the back is so in vouge at the moment some team will start with somrthing else soon eoungh , look when you see Luxembourg doing the same then it's time to rethink .
From an Irish international team perspective, we should revert to a nuanced version of JCs philosophy, dont play around the ball in our own half and take unnecessary chances. Play percentages, maximize every set play, organized chaos in the opponents box, put in a few hefty challenges, intimidate the opponents, make them hate to come to play in Dublin. Break their will and that'll allow us to play a bit in the opponents half. A bit revisionist but it's simple to implement and gets results.We can only play a possession based game if we have really good technical players and we dont.

We did that for years and most people wanted the current manager out for playing like that as we apparently had the players to play a better style
Need to mix things up a bit go long at times and keep it short at others , If i was an Arsenal fan it would turn your hair white over night watching them pass it around at the back , how many goals have they given away this season for doing just that ?
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

I don't think it's too many games, I think the TV companies push too much hype. It's a lovely sunny day and they push Burnley V Watford as not to be missed.

Go out, enjoy the sun, come back to the matches in a week or two,  be grand.


I tune on just for the craic and analysis as opposed to the game itself these days. 

Football is far too polished a game nowadays.  Too professional, too manicured, too perfect.  Its very uniform and generic across the board and everyone tries to play Barcelona 2011 football.  The game needs a breath of fresh air.  Something different.  A long ball team that kicks the opposition off the pitch.  Just anything bar boring tippy tappy going nowhere football.  Even if such a ugly long ball team was ridiculed by myself I just want something to watch or hate or make it interesting.







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Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

I just think playing from the back is so in vouge at the moment some team will start with somrthing else soon eoungh , look when you see Luxembourg doing the same then it's time to rethink .
From an Irish international team perspective, we should revert to a nuanced version of JCs philosophy, dont play around the ball in our own half and take unnecessary chances. Play percentages, maximize every set play, organized chaos in the opponents box, put in a few hefty challenges, intimidate the opponents, make them hate to come to play in Dublin. Break their will and that'll allow us to play a bit in the opponents half. A bit revisionist but it's simple to implement and gets results.We can only play a possession based game if we have really good technical players and we dont.

We did that for years and most people wanted the current manager out for playing like that as we apparently had the players to play a better style
Need to mix things up a bit go long at times and keep it short at others , If i was an Arsenal fan it would turn your hair white over night watching them pass it around at the back , how many goals have they given away this season for doing just that ?

How many goals are given away by giving the ball away on purpose time and time again by kicking it up the pitch.  How many teams have won trophies by playing direct Long ball football.  Most trophies are won by those who can keep ball.  This is even more important as the game as become less physical due to rule changes.  If you are turning your possession into 50/50s the chances will tire more quickly and give away more frees.  
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

I just think playing from the back is so in vouge at the moment some team will start with somrthing else soon eoungh , look when you see Luxembourg doing the same then it's time to rethink .
From an Irish international team perspective, we should revert to a nuanced version of JCs philosophy, dont play around the ball in our own half and take unnecessary chances. Play percentages, maximize every set play, organized chaos in the opponents box, put in a few hefty challenges, intimidate the opponents, make them hate to come to play in Dublin. Break their will and that'll allow us to play a bit in the opponents half. A bit revisionist but it's simple to implement and gets results.We can only play a possession based game if we have really good technical players and we dont.

We did that for years and most people wanted the current manager out for playing like that as we apparently had the players to play a better style
Need to mix things up a bit go long at times and keep it short at others , If i was an Arsenal fan it would turn your hair white over night watching them pass it around at the back , how many goals have they given away this season for doing just that ?

How many goals are given away by giving the ball away on purpose time and time again by kicking it up the pitch.  How many teams have won trophies by playing direct Long ball football.  Most trophies are won by those who can keep ball.  This is even more important as the game as become less physical due to rule changes.  If you are turning your possession into 50/50s the chances will tire more quickly and give away more frees.  
Was talking about Arsenal and the question still stands .
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