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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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zizu Kilbane
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You can see now why young dual eligible players are holding out. That's an poor squad
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Roberto Baggio
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If Villa win the play off final I could see Grealish getting a call up next season
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Hans Moleman
Roy Keane Muff: That is a lie and you are a liar Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 10199 |
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Looking at the squad selected, I think Grealish would be very close to making it for this WC. If he is playing PL next season I'd be shocked if he's not capped within a year
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Fintan
Liam Brady YBIG Mods are cool Joined: 30 May 2013 Location: Reading Status: Offline Points: 1558 |
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People who gorge on English Premier League games think England underperform. They think England have 'the best' players cause that is who they watch most often.
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Gary McKay
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By far. That was a decent enough squad even with Gazza and Barnes injured, it was the team selection, tactics and management. Pearce, Wright, Des Walker, Platt, Lineker, Shearer, Merson etc. Although it did include Carlton Palmer and Any Sinton. |
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bhob
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The best players in the Premier League aren't English though so I don't really get your point.
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Agreed. I do think the squads in '12, '14 and '16 have been at least equally as bad though.
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Zinedine Kilbane 110
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It’s not the best England squad but it’s probably the 9/10th best Squad at the World Cup.
They should be able to beat all those teams in group H so I think they can get to the 1/4 finals. They have gotten a good draw in fairness. Belgium should be looking to get to the 1/4s at least. |
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Fintan
Liam Brady YBIG Mods are cool Joined: 30 May 2013 Location: Reading Status: Offline Points: 1558 |
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I'm sorry you aren't able to understand. I will break it down for you. England like all teams play at their level. People who watch EPL have an overinflated view of English players as they watch English football primarily. I watch a lot of Irish League football and have an overinflated view of IL players but in reality they consistently flop following a move abroad. My Polish friends have an overinflated view of Polish teams because it is what they watch. They believe Polish teams should be ever present in CL and that the national side should perform better.
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Denis Irwin
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Ah stop
Edited by Denis Irwin - 17 May 2018 at 9:31am |
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Barring 2/3 calls that Southgate has made, the squad nearly picked itself. People seemed surprised by the lack of quality in it which they shouldn't be, its not like he's left out a load of top players. Who else do you select that would seriously improve it?
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Some people just deserve a slap
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Roberto Baggio
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Fintan, a lot of us on here watch a lot of EPL, and not one person is saying England will get further than the quarter finals. Most are saying that the quarter finals would be a great achievement for this squad, so that is hardly over inflating them because we watch the league.
Who on here has ever even suggested that England "have the best players"? A prime example of making stuff up to suit a narrative there. I think their centre back area in that squad is as weak as it has been in decades. Edited by Roberto Baggio - 17 May 2018 at 9:36am |
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Fintan
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Ok i will ammend that part of my analysis....it was based on the title of the thread. EPL watchers have sn overinflated view of the qualities of Englush players as they watch and critique those players most often. In reality English players are at their level that is "Why are England not the best" solved. It's really quite simple. Spanish league viewers were probably saying pre 2010 "Why are Spain not the best" they werent the best then because they didnt have the best players. Just because you see their relative quality on a weekly basis doesn't make them "the best" globally.
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pre Madonna
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I think Topper might have returned. Edited by pre Madonna - 17 May 2018 at 9:43am |
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Fintan
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Also for the avoidance of doubt I was answering the question posed in the title no agreeing or disagreeing with anyone else assessment of England as a squad.
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Newryrep
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It not even subtle
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'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te
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lassassinblanc
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Agree in regards to Grealish if Villa go up and he performs decently can see him getting a call up for the Euro Nations or at least for a friendly
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