What is Trump's biggest mistake

ConorMac77 wrote: pre Madonna wrote: I would say the biggest mistake was made by his father........ Or even his mother for not having a 'headache' that night...

No Trump has had consensual sex without large wads of cash.

Denis Irwin wrote: Can you not see the obvious legal implications of it ? He's entitled to a presumption of innocence and due process under the legal system. Most Defence attorneys will argue he can't now get a fair trial.

That might happen here, but America doesn't have anything like the sub judice protections we have here. In American, freedom of speech is king, and they trust their juries not to be misled and to take into account only what they hear in court. I don't know what the right balance is (it might be somewhere between the two) but I don't think he has prejudiced the right to a fair trial: hell, I think we all know Trump is a blowhard and most sane US jurors know the same, especially in a liberal state like New York. It can of course be argued but it's not likely to be successful. Most elected officials are smart enough to keep their mouths shut, but we aren't dealing with an elected official like that here.

coyne wrote: I'm far from an expert. But because of that tweet he can try claim extradition back to Uzbekistan on the basis he won't get a fair trial on violation of the Human Rights Act. It's unlikely but it shouldn't of even gotten to that stage.

In one word, no. Extradition works the other way around: you use Human Rights arguments to avoid being extradited to a country that wants to try you. If you're already in the country that wants to try you, none of that is any use.

Trap junior wrote: If it was Ireland he'd get off and win a court case for defamation and get 5 million

Not a chance and even though you're clearly being ironic, that post is absolute nonsense.


Edited by SuperDave84 - 02 Nov 2017 at 2:46pm

I would also expect that if he makes statements confirming his role and his influence over the outcome, and a guilty plea, it would hugely weaken any argument of prejudice?

What attorney would front up to defend this mongrel though??

Home Alone 2

I would have to say his biggest mistake from an Irish point of view is not taking out the Kim Jong Un of Irish football

SuperDave84 wrote: Denis Irwin wrote: Can you not see the obvious legal implications of it ? He's entitled to a presumption of innocence and due process under the legal system. Most Defence attorneys will argue he can't now get a fair trial. That might happen here, but America doesn't have anything like the sub judice protections we have here. In American, freedom of speech is king, and they trust their juries not to be misled and to take into account only what they hear in court. I don't know what the right balance is (it might be somewhere between the two) but I don't think he has prejudiced the right to a fair trial: hell, I think we all know Trump is a blowhard and most sane US jurors know the same, especially in a liberal state like New York. It can of course be argued but it's not likely to be successful. Most elected officials are smart enough to keep their mouths shut, but we aren't dealing with an elected official like that here. coyne wrote: I'm far from an expert. But because of that tweet he can try claim extradition back to Uzbekistan on the basis he won't get a fair trial on violation of the Human Rights Act. It's unlikely but it shouldn't of even gotten to that stage. In one word, no. Extradition works the other way around: you use Human Rights arguments to avoid being extradited to a country that wants to try you. If you're already in the country that wants to try you, none of that is any use. Trap junior wrote: If it was Ireland he'd get off and win a court case for defamation and get 5 million Not a chance and even though you're clearly being ironic, that post is absolute nonsense.

I was extracting the urine a d having a dig at Eire's ridiculous sentences

Moving his lips.

Keep em coming,