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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sid waddell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Mar 2021 at 8:42pm
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Today's anti lockdown protest in Cork was apparently organised by someone who is anti water charges pro Palestine etc. so I don't think the far right can be accused solely of this mindset. Interent Brain rot doesn't care about your political ideology. 
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Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Today's anti lockdown protest in Cork was apparently organised by someone who is anti water charges pro Palestine etc. so I don't think the far right can be accused solely of this mindset. Interent Brain rot doesn't care about your political ideology. 

Bollocks. I am on the left and move in those circles and don't know of one person that believes any of that nonsense.
It is also worth noting that there are people on the far right who support Palestine, for obvious reasons. 


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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Today's anti lockdown protest in Cork was apparently organised by someone who is anti water charges pro Palestine etc. so I don't think the far right can be accused solely of this mindset. Interent Brain rot doesn't care about your political ideology. 

Bollocks. I am on the left and move in those circles and don't know of one person that believes any of that nonsense.
It is also worth noting that there are people on the far right who support Palestine, for obvious reasons. 
Maybe I have it incorrect regarding the organising of the protest and if so I apologies. Anyway it doesn't seem like yesterday's protest had huge numbers, similar to some of the others in the country.
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Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Today's anti lockdown protest in Cork was apparently organised by someone who is anti water charges pro Palestine etc. so I don't think the far right can be accused solely of this mindset. Interent Brain rot doesn't care about your political ideology. 

Bollocks. I am on the left and move in those circles and don't know of one person that believes any of that nonsense.
It is also worth noting that there are people on the far right who support Palestine, for obvious reasons. 
Maybe I have it incorrect regarding the organising of the protest and if so I apologies. Anyway it doesn't seem like yesterday's protest had huge numbers, similar to some of the others in the country.
I just feel it is part of this 'both sides' argument which is prominent in liberalism and is, in my view, part of the problem!
Leftists(I hate this term) in general want to make society fairer for everyone. You can disagree with the methods, but that's the reality of it. It is the same sort of argument that implies Hitler was a socialist. 
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It seems to me that the both sidesism is mainly about generating sales, ratings and clicks

Media has a vested interest in both sidesing, and thus platforming griters who don't believe what they say and are in the game of right wing grifting for profile and monetary gain

This is one of its biggest failings


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Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

It seems to me that the both sidesism is mainly about generating sales, ratings and clicks

Media has a vested interest in both sidesing, and thus platforming griters who don't believe what they say and are in the game of right wing grifting for profile and monetary gain

This is one of its biggest failings


That's absolutely true. The British media is sliding towards fascism while protesting about everything being 'left wing'.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

It seems to me that the both sidesism is mainly about generating sales, ratings and clicks

Media has a vested interest in both sidesing, and thus platforming griters who don't believe what they say and are in the game of right wing grifting for profile and monetary gain

This is one of its biggest failings


That's absolutely true. The British media is sliding towards fascism while protesting about everything being 'left wing'.
Even look at the Irish Times

Falling over themselves yesterday to call the flat earthers in Cork "peaceful"

Always accentuate the "positive" about the nutcases
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I am very close to cancelling my subscription to the Irish Times (most middle class sentence I have written)  for their sudden downplaying of the fringe fascists.
Unfortunately, in general, the right have won the culture war and those of us on the left need to assess why.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

I am very close to cancelling my subscription to the Irish Times (most middle class sentence I have written)  for their sudden downplaying of the fringe fascists.
Unfortunately, in general, the right have won the culture war and those of us on the left need to assess why.

Great question PM.   My own theory is tone and that many people dont like being lectured to and the right provides easy answers and doesnt blame thr majority but blames the minority and others them.   Far more nuance on the left and being a decent person and giving people rights etc.  Simple slogans are more accessible.


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There's something in that, but how else can you tell people they are being ****s? How do you point out selfishness without prophesying?
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The far right are by far the biggest beneficiaries of political correctness

You can't even call racists racist these days

You can't even call fascists fascist
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Who could have predicted that Mumford and his sons would be victims! After providing so much musical joy!
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brilliant post on Twitter earlier referencing the trad band on Phoenix nights 😂
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

brilliant post on Twitter earlier referencing the trad band on Phoenix nights 😂
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I see one of the "anti-woke" brigade, Laurence Fox is running for Mayor of London. Apart from not liking what he has to say ( and the UK electorate roundly rejected the "free speech" line that UKIP took in 2019), the strange thing about Fox is that for an allegedly "controversial" guy he is unbelievably boring and monotone. I have struggled to listen to him for more than a couple of seconds at time. Normally, don't controversial people have some degree of charisma?
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