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Italy in 06 had Australia and Ukraine before beating Germany in the semi's. Whereas France had to beat Portugal, Brazil and Spain to reach the final.
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France are a machine and it's difficult to see anything other than a win for them.

However, Croatia probably feel like they have mystical forces guiding them to a World Cup win.

For France everything is going according to plan, while Croatia have had to ad-lib a lot more. 

Deschamps will expect a 2-0 win. He probably ordered the bus for the victory parade in Paris a couple of months ago.

We can only hope that the Croats score first and football match will break-out. 

The French were too clever for their own good against Argentina, and it nearly came back to bite them. 

The Croats have none of the chaos that the Argentinians have, but they do have the talent to unsettle France.

Deschamps was probably laughing at the Croats for trying to score a third goal against England last night. They should have been running the ball into the corners.

Hopefully the Croats can keep that up. It'd be nice if they delivered the coup de grace to France in injury time to bring the curtain down on this World Cup.


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Modric has for sure been player of the tournament.

I am sick of the mbappe talk. The way some of the media have been going on is that he has been tearing up the world cup. That he is the new mesiah. 
Ok yes he is only 19 but apart from the Argentine game where he was good and took goals well, has he really been that amazing? I think griezmann has been more influential to be honest and even others like Kante and all the defence.  
I think the whole mbappe praise started because of the timing where ronaldo and Messi went out and he got the two goals to knock out Argentina in the same round. So it was out with the old, in with the new. But he has been very ordinary since.

Whereas Modric has orchestrated Croatia to the final with MOTM performances in 5 games so far. 
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Modric has for sure been player of the tournament.

I am sick of the mbappe talk. The way some of the media have been going on is that he has been tearing up the world cup. That he is the new mesiah. 
Ok yes he is only 19 but apart from the Argentine game where he was good and took goals well, has he really been that amazing? I think griezmann has been more influential to be honest and even others like Kante and all the defence.  
I think the whole mbappe praise started because of the timing where ronaldo and Messi went out and he got the two goals to knock out Argentina in the same round. So it was out with the old, in with the new. But he has been very ordinary since.

Whereas Modric has orchestrated Croatia to the final with MOTM performances in 5 games so far. 


Perisic actually got the official MOTM award against England
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Can my beloved Dejan Lovrens luck hold out for the final, it ran out for Stones & Walker in the semi, he has had a decent tournament so far got away with a lot of sh*t in the Semi against England but in the final up against the likes of Griezemann, Giroud, Mbappe can his luck hold out?
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Originally posted by Darraghn92 Darraghn92 wrote:

Italy in 06 had Australia and Ukraine before beating Germany in the semi's. Whereas France had to beat Portugal, Brazil and Spain to reach the final.
That was France's own fault for not winning their group.
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I agree tr_andy regarding Mbappe
I think the commentators are overplaying how good he has been. They were saying he was the best player on the pitch by a mile against Belgium. First half I thought Hazard was 
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Thought Hazard was the best player on the pitch all match. He was trying to win it on his own at times. I don't think him and De Bruyne were helped by the tactics employed, Hazard just tried to keep going though.
Mbappé was a danger throughout but is being talked up because of his maturity on the pitch for his age, which I can understand.


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France to win this pretty handily

the referee Pitana should crack down on the Croatians cynical attempts to stop France's more speedier players 

they will have too much. 2-0 or 3-1
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Croatia’s easy run to the final should not be overlooked
France to win in 90 mins at just below evens is a great bet
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Croatia’s easy run to the final should not be overlooked
France to win in 90 mins at just below evens is a great bet
 
Was it really that easy?
 
Denmark had gone something like 17 games unbeaten up to that point, whereas the hosts are generally always pretty tough to eliminate. They might have got lucky to meet England in the semi-final but it was still a much stronger than usual English team at the end of the day.
 
They've showed fantastic resilience throughout the tournament. Won't be going near the final with a barge pole betting wise. Should be a cracker of a final.

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Well if England’s run to the semis was easy then surely Croatia’s was as well?
Colombia and Sweden wouldn’t be any worse than Denmark and Russia 
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Well if England’s run to the semis was easy then surely Croatia’s was as well?
Colombia and Sweden wouldn’t be any worse than Denmark and Russia 
 
Hrm, not so sure about that. Mightn't be a huge amount in it but felt Croatia definitely had a tougher route to reach the semi final than England did. Either way both enjoyed an easier route to the semi final stages than France did.

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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Modric has for sure been player of the tournament.

I am sick of the mbappe talk. The way some of the media have been going on is that he has been tearing up the world cup. That he is the new mesiah. 
Ok yes he is only 19 but apart from the Argentine game where he was good and took goals well, has he really been that amazing? I think griezmann has been more influential to be honest and even others like Kante and all the defence.  
I think the whole mbappe praise started because of the timing where ronaldo and Messi went out and he got the two goals to knock out Argentina in the same round. So it was out with the old, in with the new. But he has been very ordinary since.

Whereas Modric has orchestrated Croatia to the final with MOTM performances in 5 games so far. 

Why would you be sick of the Mbappe talk? He’s a joy to watch and without doubt the next big superstar! Just enjoy his performances.
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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Why would you be sick of the Mbappe talk? He’s a joy to watch and without doubt the next big superstar! Just enjoy his performances.
 
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Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Croatia’s easy run to the final should not be overlooked
France to win in 90 mins at just below evens is a great bet
 
Was it really that easy?
 
Denmark had gone something like 17 games unbeaten up to that point, whereas the hosts are generally always pretty tough to eliminate. They might have got lucky to meet England in the semi-final but it was still a much stronger than usual English team at the end of the day.
 
They've showed fantastic resilience throughout the tournament. Won't be going near the final with a barge pole betting wise. Should be a cracker of a final.

Yes it was relatively easy.
None of them would be a top 10 team in the World.

France has to beat Belgium and Uruguay who would be a higher level.



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Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Why would you be sick of the Mbappe talk? He’s a joy to watch and without doubt the next big superstar! Just enjoy his performances.
 
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I just mean it's like it's being forced down our throats that he has been amazing. He is exciting and it's great to see a young player like that with the world at his feet. But I just don't think he has been as influential as what has been made out. I think there are others in that French team who have made more of an influence to get them to the final. 

He'll probably bag a hat-trick now on Sunday LOL


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