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bhob 
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Argies goal is cancelled and it's brought back for a pen
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The Huntacha
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Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 1:12pm |
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Kevin Doyle mentioned a similar scenario on RTE last night, indicating that he'd be in favour of letting play go on while the VAR crew analyse the scenario. Terrible idea IMO as it will cause even more delays in the long run.
Last night's took 90 seconds to clear up, hardly a huge delay. I'd imagine the protests by our players for Henry's handball went on for longer, so if it only takes 90 seconds to clear up an incorrect call to stop a team getting f*cked over, then that's ok with me.
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The Huntacha
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Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 1:37pm |
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I take back everything I said here
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Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic."
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Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 1:39pm |
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I don't understand how he can give that.
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Bob Hoskins
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BrendanD88
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Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 3:51pm |
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Same here. VAR is very frustrating! I see incidents in most games that by the same principle should be reviewed and are not.
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Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 4:09pm |
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I do. Defender handles ball in box = penalty. You put your arm up that high and handle a football, you give a ref a decision to make. Even before VAR, we saw those decisions given. With VAR, you're not going to get away with it.
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Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 4:16pm |
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Which is the point! If you can understand it then it can't make any sense. |
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Stoked Up
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Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 9:55am |
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One of the conditions is that neither players nor managers can call for the VAR to influence the ref.
The manager can be sent to the stands or the player can be yellow carded. I don't know why they didn't introduce the yellow card to stop players making VAR squares during this tournament. I suppose it's a work in progress.
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BrendanD88
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Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 9:14pm |
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So the Video assistant referee’s review every incident and they didn’t think the blatant foul on Mitrovic was worth a look for the ref? Frustrating system.
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Roberto Baggio
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Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 9:29pm |
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there needs to be a way for them to alert the ref when things like that are missed totally by him. Like the Kane incidents too
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BrendanD88
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Is that not the case? I assumed they had constant contact with the ref and would advise them when something should be reviewed.
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Baldrick
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Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 10:31pm |
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Do we know that they didnt alert him, maybe they did and he ignored them.
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AKA pedantic kunt
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sid waddell
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Posted: 22 Jun 2018 at 10:37pm |
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Question: when the VAR people signal to the referee that an incident should be reviewed, can the referee simply ignore their signal if he feels like it? If I didn't know any better I'd suspect that's what happened with the Serbian non-penalty. The referee looked like he was behaving in a right pig headed manner.
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This is one potential problem I can see with VAR - no-one (whether in the stadium or watching on tv) can tell if the VAR actually is getting on to the referee to review an incident so the ref really could choose to ignore the advice if he wanted to and let the VAR get the blame for seemingly not spotting or raising the incident. So it seems there's still room for any dodgy referees to get away with it in future. I'm not saying that's what's happened with any of the penalties that should have been awarded in this world cup but someone surely has some explaining to do about those decisions , not least with the 2 penalties Harry Kane should have got or the one that Mitrovic should have been awarded tonight (I mean, that wasn't just 1 defender holding him in the area, it was 2!  ).So it looks like a case of back to the drawing board FIFA...  |
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Posted: 26 Jun 2018 at 8:01am |
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Don't think it matters much tbh who calls for a review, but the clear error decisions are made by the VAR, such as offsides, and the on field ref is the one who has the final say on, penalty reviews/red cards.
Some of the refs look uncomfortable around penalty claims. Some look as though they think they are being undermined by players and coaches baying for reviews, and others look upset when they have to change the decision. The ref at the Portugal game looked as if he had the weight of the world on his shoulders during the reviews, not helped by a TV camera stuck in his face with millions of people, watching the final minutes of a group being decided, live across the world. But I don't think anyone likes to see intimidation of referees, before or after a review. If VAR recommends an incident to be reviewed, it will be reviewed. And if a decision has to be changed, then there is obviously a valid case for it, which there was in the above game. The ref only has to apply the laws of the game as they stand to a given incident, in a fair and impartial manner.
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Posted: 26 Jun 2018 at 9:53am |
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Like it and think it can have great benefits for the game but they cant keep stopping it for every decision. Offsides, penalties etc are fine but stopping it for fouls like Ronaldo's last night is wrong. There has to be a human side to it too and things are going to be missed. Too much stopping the game takes away from the VAR in my opinion
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Some people just deserve a slap
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bhob
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Posted: 26 Jun 2018 at 10:13am |
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So you don't want the game stopped for a review of potential red cards?
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