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Originally posted by PaddyDaCulchie PaddyDaCulchie wrote:

https://www.wolves.co.uk/news/academy/20190615-loan-watch-ronan-slovakia-move-a-risk-that-s-paid-off/

That link doesn't work for me...here's a working one :

https://www.wolves.co.uk/news/academy/20190615-loan-watch-ronan-slovakia-move-a-risk-that-s-paid-off/#


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Try this one... 

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He's a quality player. Was very impressed with him the other night.

     
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by AbuAbu AbuAbu wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

In fairness to JD Ruud Doktor's appointment looks to have been an excellent one.  Not sure exactly what impact he has had but it can't b a coincidence that all the under age teams are doing well now.

Agreed. I think the national leagues are a great idea, especially the connection to a LOI club. I realise that the big schoolboy clubs are against it and there are some valid criticisms e.g. it should be for every age group not just odd years. 

I was also an advocate of summer soccer. Makes complete sense. Yes you are going against other sports but and you will lose some players but at least the players you don't lose get a better standard of football and facilities. Short sighted self interest got this reversed.

Down the country really talented underage players get just 1 night training per week because they are being pulled into gaa and other things and the local soccer club is not strong enough in the community to do anything. But when they get called into the regional/national league teams this changes. More regular training, soccer focused, playing a higher standard. At a national level this then increases our pool and we are not then just dependent on the traditional few superclubs in Dublin.

Which is a contradiction in itself.

Take any local league down the country.

Hypothetically speaking, in a 10 team under 14 league most teams lose 3 or 4+ players each to Gaelic or Hurling due to the clash with summer soccer.

Decreased numbers = Stretched resources which increase the chances of walkovers being given + the stronger teams who maybe able to cope with losing a few players are now playing against far inferior and weaker opposition (especially smaller and rural clubs) due to lack of numbers.

Non competitive and smaller leagues are a given, as I said most rural and small clubs are dependent on dual players to filter back in when the GAA season is over. 

The benefits of LOI underage season being summer is that many of these kids come back into their local leagues and play for a few months of the winter, thus increasing player numbers and bringing up the overall standard.

Also, I'm not sure what league you're involved in but most clubs down these parts will train twice a week (mine do anyway from under 11's up)

Between players getting on their local counties academy team, playing soccer in school, regional teams or breaking into a LOI underage set up etc there is more than enough reason to stick with the tried and tested, by going summer school you alienate kids and force them to choose a favourite sport and then potentially lose them for good.

For the most part while it's improving, the standard of coaching throughout the country is poor. 

A huge percentage of "coaches" wouldn't have beyond their kickstart 1 or 2, yet we're trusting these people to improve kids to a point where they're technically competent. 
Rather than having a back and forth with you I dont agree but respect your opinion.  The tried and tested point u make is exactly my point.  Winter soccer didn't exactly lead to huge success at international level. I think summer season would work if tried over a longer period.  But there is always a risk with change.
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@AbuAbu and I to yours Thumbs Up

Again I will come back to the standard of coaching in this country, there are many coaches even in academies now without even so much as their kickstart 1 or 2 "coaching" teams, they are given these jobs because their local club may have won a league.

I went and done the UEFA B Licence (will try get both the UEFA A and Pro Licence done within the next 10 years) and I can honestly while I'm nowhere near perfect as coach and have countless more aspects to improve on but like anything in life education is so important.

It's no surprise tiny countries like Iceland are producing a lot of young talent even with a small population, you have to have a certain level of qualification before you can take over any sort of side there.

There are many coaches out there with loads of qualifications but are poor coaches down to arrogance or their mannerism, but definitely on the law of averages the better educated coaches are the better the players (kids especially) become.

Making coaching courses cheaper and more accessible is a big one for the FAI to manage imo!
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