You Boys in Green Homepage YBIG Shop
Forum Home Forum Home : International : Republic Of Ireland
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Under-21 Euro 2021 Qualifying
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


Under-21 Euro 2021 Qualifying

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 64656667>
Author
Message
Trap junior View Drop Down
Robbie Keane
Robbie Keane
Avatar
www.revolut.com

Joined: 25 Jan 2010
Location: Milan, Italy
Status: Online
Points: 31035
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Trap junior Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 12:00am
In fairness to JD Ruud Doktor's appointment looks to have been an excellent one.  Not sure exactly what impact he has had but it can't b a coincidence that all the under age teams are doing well now.
For all your Bitcoin enquiries contact David Meyler

Crap senior is my full time stalker.
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
10 Box View Drop Down
Kevin Kilbane
Kevin Kilbane
Avatar

Joined: 21 Jun 2012
Location: Dublin
Status: Offline
Points: 260
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 10 Box Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 11:01am
Originally posted by PaddyDaCulchie PaddyDaCulchie wrote:

Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

can we be guaranteed to hang on to the likes of Coventry. 

As long as he stays on the fringes at west ham, his contract up in summer and he is reluctant to sign a new one. Can see him in championship at best next season. Dont think there is need to worry

His mother is from Cabra so hopefully she will make him see sense if ever does think of switching :)
Back to Top
kevincronin2000 View Drop Down
Ray Houghton
Ray Houghton
Avatar
Cork Airport Dogging Administrator

Joined: 17 Aug 2009
Location: P. Rep of Cork
Status: Offline
Points: 3934
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kevincronin2000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 11:25am
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

In fairness to JD Ruud Doktor's appointment looks to have been an excellent one.  Not sure exactly what impact he has had but it can't b a coincidence that all the under age teams are doing well now.
Was thinking the same thing myself, noticed him on the pitch at full time in Tallaght the other night beaming from ear to ear, big contrast to when jd had him up in front of the oirochteas committee a few months back.
time is the stuff that life is made of, don't waste it.
Back to Top
Howdo View Drop Down
Kevin Kilbane
Kevin Kilbane
Avatar

Joined: 08 Oct 2010
Location: Ireland
Status: Offline
Points: 464
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Howdo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 11:32am
Originally posted by 10 Box 10 Box wrote:

Originally posted by PaddyDaCulchie PaddyDaCulchie wrote:

Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

can we be guaranteed to hang on to the likes of Coventry. 


As long as he stays on the fringes at west ham, his contract up in summer and he is reluctant to sign a new one. Can see him in championship at best next season. Dont think there is need to worry


His mother is from Cabra so hopefully she will make him see sense if ever does think of switching :)


Don’t think there’s any chance he’ll jump, he seems pretty much nailed on
Back to Top
JoxerDaly View Drop Down
Kevin Kilbane
Kevin Kilbane


Joined: 03 Apr 2018
Location: Dublin
Status: Offline
Points: 469
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JoxerDaly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 11:38am
Coventry was class the other night. Needs a move from West Ham soon, loan or otherwise.
Back to Top
AbuAbu View Drop Down
Kevin Kilbane
Kevin Kilbane
Avatar

Joined: 25 Mar 2015
Location: Ireland
Status: Offline
Points: 366
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AbuAbu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 11:39am
Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

In fairness to JD Ruud Doktor's appointment looks to have been an excellent one.  Not sure exactly what impact he has had but it can't b a coincidence that all the under age teams are doing well now.

Agreed. I think the national leagues are a great idea, especially the connection to a LOI club. I realise that the big schoolboy clubs are against it and there are some valid criticisms e.g. it should be for every age group not just odd years. 

I was also an advocate of summer soccer. Makes complete sense. Yes you are going against other sports but and you will lose some players but at least the players you don't lose get a better standard of football and facilities. Short sighted self interest got this reversed.

Down the country really talented underage players get just 1 night training per week because they are being pulled into gaa and other things and the local soccer club is not strong enough in the community to do anything. But when they get called into the regional/national league teams this changes. More regular training, soccer focused, playing a higher standard. At a national level this then increases our pool and we are not then just dependent on the traditional few superclubs in Dublin.
It's not me it's you:-)
Back to Top
delgado View Drop Down
Phil Babb
Phil Babb


Joined: 06 May 2018
Location: wexford
Status: Offline
Points: 31
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote delgado Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 11:51am
yes country clubs generally only traon once a week ,though with the emerging talent  programme kids are getting spotted earlier which is a big help.
Back to Top
MC Hammered View Drop Down
Ray Houghton
Ray Houghton


Joined: 05 Oct 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 4974
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MC Hammered Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 11:56am


Plenty of midfield talent (including number 10's) under the age of 24 around the senior and underage teams. 

Byrne
Cullen
Molumby
Coventry
Ronan
Kilkenny

I wouldn't put Joe Hodge into the above group yet as he is miles away from first team experience but he looks like a good lad too. 



El Puto Amo
Back to Top
Green Devil View Drop Down
Robbie Keane
Robbie Keane
Avatar
Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again

Joined: 06 Oct 2010
Location: Acropolis
Status: Offline
Points: 21012
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Green Devil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 12:29pm
Originally posted by AbuAbu AbuAbu wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

In fairness to JD Ruud Doktor's appointment looks to have been an excellent one.  Not sure exactly what impact he has had but it can't b a coincidence that all the under age teams are doing well now.

Agreed. I think the national leagues are a great idea, especially the connection to a LOI club. I realise that the big schoolboy clubs are against it and there are some valid criticisms e.g. it should be for every age group not just odd years. 

I was also an advocate of summer soccer. Makes complete sense. Yes you are going against other sports but and you will lose some players but at least the players you don't lose get a better standard of football and facilities. Short sighted self interest got this reversed.

Down the country really talented underage players get just 1 night training per week because they are being pulled into gaa and other things and the local soccer club is not strong enough in the community to do anything. But when they get called into the regional/national league teams this changes. More regular training, soccer focused, playing a higher standard. At a national level this then increases our pool and we are not then just dependent on the traditional few superclubs in Dublin.

Which is a contradiction in itself.

Take any local league down the country.

Hypothetically speaking, in a 10 team under 14 league most teams lose 3 or 4+ players each to Gaelic or Hurling due to the clash with summer soccer.

Decreased numbers = Stretched resources which increase the chances of walkovers being given + the stronger teams who maybe able to cope with losing a few players are now playing against far inferior and weaker opposition (especially smaller and rural clubs) due to lack of numbers.

Non competitive and smaller leagues are a given, as I said most rural and small clubs are dependent on dual players to filter back in when the GAA season is over. 

The benefits of LOI underage season being summer is that many of these kids come back into their local leagues and play for a few months of the winter, thus increasing player numbers and bringing up the overall standard.

Also, I'm not sure what league you're involved in but most clubs down these parts will train twice a week (mine do anyway from under 11's up)

Between players getting on their local counties academy team, playing soccer in school, regional teams or breaking into a LOI underage set up etc there is more than enough reason to stick with the tried and tested, by going summer school you alienate kids and force them to choose a favourite sport and then potentially lose them for good.

For the most part while it's improving, the standard of coaching throughout the country is poor. 

A huge percentage of "coaches" wouldn't have beyond their kickstart 1 or 2, yet we're trusting these people to improve kids to a point where they're technically competent. 
"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"

Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan
Back to Top
Fozz View Drop Down
Ronnie Whelan
Ronnie Whelan
Avatar

Joined: 08 Oct 2019
Location: Dublin
Status: Offline
Points: 51
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fozz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 1:11pm
Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:



Plenty of midfield talent (including number 10's) under the age of 24 around the senior and underage teams. 

Byrne
Cullen
Molumby
Coventry
Ronan
Kilkenny

I wouldn't put Joe Hodge into the above group yet as he is miles away from first team experience but he looks like a good lad too. 




Love the look of Hodge and he's back training now after a bad injury, which is great news. 
I don't get why Ronan is not being linked with an upgrade to the seniors. 
Always impresses and is playing men's football week in week out...surely only a matter of time. 
Kenny will certainly bring him up! 
Back to Top
PaddyDaCulchie View Drop Down
Kevin Kilbane
Kevin Kilbane
Avatar

Joined: 28 Feb 2018
Location: Manchester
Status: Offline
Points: 244
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PaddyDaCulchie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 1:21pm
Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:



Plenty of midfield talent (including number 10's) under the age of 24 around the senior and underage teams. 

Byrne
Cullen
Molumby
Coventry
Ronan
Kilkenny

I wouldn't put Joe Hodge into the above group yet as he is miles away from first team experience but he looks like a good lad too. 




Love the look of Hodge and he's back training now after a bad injury, which is great news. 
I don't get why Ronan is not being linked with an upgrade to the seniors. 
Always impresses and is playing men's football week in week out...surely only a matter of time. 
Kenny will certainly bring him up! 

Ronan didnt set the world alight in lge1 with Portsmouth or Walsall. Think that's what is going against him, but I dont think he is suited to the way seniors play. Wolves are sensible, sent him to a club where his ability is utilised rather than seen as a risk
Back to Top
Conan View Drop Down
Kevin Kilbane
Kevin Kilbane
Avatar

Joined: 11 Mar 2015
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 461
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Conan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 2:35pm
Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:



Love the look of Hodge and he's back training now after a bad injury, which is great news. 
I don't get why Ronan is not being linked with an upgrade to the seniors. 
Always impresses and is playing men's football week in week out...surely only a matter of time. 
Kenny will certainly bring him up! 
Ronan's playing in Slovakian league football, which, Slovan aside, is basically LOI standard - about the 30th best league in Europe. He'd have to be tearing it up there pretty good to be considered for senior international football.
Back to Top
The Huntacha View Drop Down
Jack Charlton
Jack Charlton
Avatar

Joined: 27 Mar 2012
Location: Meath
Status: Offline
Points: 8858
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Huntacha Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 2:43pm
Would like to see an interview with him when that loan spell ends to see what his impressions of playing abroad were. He obviously can't give an honest opinion of it, if his impressions are negative.

However, he's technically very good, so may have to look further afield than England if he wants to have a successful career.
Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic."
Back to Top
pre Madonna View Drop Down
Robbie Keane
Robbie Keane
Avatar
I am MALDING

Joined: 30 Nov 2014
Location: Trumpton
Status: Offline
Points: 38439
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pre Madonna Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 2:47pm
Originally posted by Conan Conan wrote:

Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:



Love the look of Hodge and he's back training now after a bad injury, which is great news. 
I don't get why Ronan is not being linked with an upgrade to the seniors. 
Always impresses and is playing men's football week in week out...surely only a matter of time. 
Kenny will certainly bring him up! 
Ronan's playing in Slovakian league football, which, Slovan aside, is basically LOI standard - about the 30th best league in Europe. He'd have to be tearing it up there pretty good to be considered for senior international football.
Not at all! See Byrne, Jack.
Greed has won, big finance has won. Whatever small role elite clubs still play in the local communities from which they grew is dwarfed now by their position as global brands.
Back to Top
Conan View Drop Down
Kevin Kilbane
Kevin Kilbane
Avatar

Joined: 11 Mar 2015
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 461
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Conan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 4:26pm
Besides have you all seen Hostel? He's not goin to be much use to us if he falls for a honey trap and loses his legs to a chainsaw.
Back to Top
GoneToShowgies View Drop Down
Ray Houghton
Ray Houghton
Avatar

Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 3557
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GoneToShowgies Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 5:08pm
Originally posted by AbuAbu AbuAbu wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

In fairness to JD Ruud Doktor's appointment looks to have been an excellent one.  Not sure exactly what impact he has had but it can't b a coincidence that all the under age teams are doing well now.

Agreed. I think the national leagues are a great idea, especially the connection to a LOI club. I realise that the big schoolboy clubs are against it and there are some valid criticisms e.g. it should be for every age group not just odd years. 


The connections with LOI clubs was a no brainer. The thing is that the LOI clubs need help financially on this new system or there is the potential it wont last. Most LOI clubs are living hand to mouth and are looking at around €80k to 100k extra on top of things to run all these underage teams. When the purse strings get tight one of the first things to go will be the underage teams. The FAI will be waxing lyrical about how their new initiatives are baring fruit at grass roots but that isint good enough if they aren't helping clubs as part of it. 
Back to Top
Fozz View Drop Down
Ronnie Whelan
Ronnie Whelan
Avatar

Joined: 08 Oct 2019
Location: Dublin
Status: Offline
Points: 51
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fozz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 5:23pm
Originally posted by PaddyDaCulchie PaddyDaCulchie wrote:

Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:



Plenty of midfield talent (including number 10's) under the age of 24 around the senior and underage teams. 

Byrne
Cullen
Molumby
Coventry
Ronan
Kilkenny

I wouldn't put Joe Hodge into the above group yet as he is miles away from first team experience but he looks like a good lad too. 




Love the look of Hodge and he's back training now after a bad injury, which is great news. 
I don't get why Ronan is not being linked with an upgrade to the seniors. 
Always impresses and is playing men's football week in week out...surely only a matter of time. 
Kenny will certainly bring him up! 

Ronan didnt set the world alight in lge1 with Portsmouth or Walsall. Think that's what is going against him, but I dont think he is suited to the way seniors play. Wolves are sensible, sent him to a club where his ability is utilised rather than seen as a risk

Can't disagree with that. 
I'd say his next move is critical. 
After this term his U21 days will be behind him and is he doesn't make some sort of club breakthru, he could vanish, which would be a shame. 


Back to Top
PaddyDaCulchie View Drop Down
Kevin Kilbane
Kevin Kilbane
Avatar

Joined: 28 Feb 2018
Location: Manchester
Status: Offline
Points: 244
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PaddyDaCulchie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2019 at 5:44pm
Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by PaddyDaCulchie PaddyDaCulchie wrote:

Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:



Plenty of midfield talent (including number 10's) under the age of 24 around the senior and underage teams. 

Byrne
Cullen
Molumby
Coventry
Ronan
Kilkenny

I wouldn't put Joe Hodge into the above group yet as he is miles away from first team experience but he looks like a good lad too. 




Love the look of Hodge and he's back training now after a bad injury, which is great news. 
I don't get why Ronan is not being linked with an upgrade to the seniors. 
Always impresses and is playing men's football week in week out...surely only a matter of time. 
Kenny will certainly bring him up! 

Ronan didnt set the world alight in lge1 with Portsmouth or Walsall. Think that's what is going against him, but I dont think he is suited to the way seniors play. Wolves are sensible, sent him to a club where his ability is utilised rather than seen as a risk

Can't disagree with that. 
I'd say his next move is critical. 
After this term his U21 days will be behind him and is he doesn't make some sort of club breakthru, he could vanish, which would be a shame. 



He needs to avoid the lower divisions/spfl, next pre-season is possibly his last chance to make an impression with Wolves. He could do with using Wolves contacts to go to maybe a Portuguese team outside of sporting, benfica or Porto. If he doesn't make it at Wolves he would be better staying on the continent.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 64656667>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.00
Copyright ©2001-2018 Web Wiz Ltd.