UK Politics Thread

I can tell you on good authority that this has been discussed at higher level through a person I know who works within the scummers. They know it's make or break when  it comes to it. The lads in the Celtic jerseys singing scum tones songs won't be happy but the middle class voter would be much more favourable

I stopped reading when you stated "Corbynista acolyte" 

Ffs 

Ease off the Espresso Martini's Tory boy 

To your first paragraph, I’m not making the obvious point that anti semitism is bad. It’s in the context of the comments by Naz Shah and Livingstone. The trope within Shah’s was extremely dubious, particularly given the large Jewish community in the USA. Of course what is regularly forgotten was her comment about a poll and who was “rallying” the skew the result. She had no choice but to apologise, and her apology was roundly accepted. This is in opposition to Ken Livingstone who was ultimately allowed resign from the party as opposed to actually dealing with his case in any meaningful way. The reports about the Willsman case would concern most people. Of course, Chris Williamson stands in solidarity with him.

Also, like I said, Williamson has shown a pattern of behaviour in relation to the matter, and this may well have been the last straw. And he has not helped himself in terms of party unity with his roadshow.He also doesn’t have the benefit of the long-standing consistency that has generally come with the likes of Corbyn, McDonnell, or Abbott (I’m not paying them a compliment). Be it his pragmatism (this is a compliment) when a Councillor, his leadership votes, or indeed his parliamentary voting record. Becoming more Corbyn than Corbyn himself has not made him immune.

You’ve made a value judgement and read the situation in the most limited way it can be construed. As I said, it’s pernicious, and often not as blatant as other forms of bigotry. Also, the subsequent comments she made on Twitter about a poll were specific about the Jewish community and even if you absolved her previous comment, you can’t accept the latter as exclusively criticism of Israel.

1. I don’t think it’s acceptable. Shame on you for making a baseless accusation like that.

2.”It undermines genuine...” That’s the type of argument used by right wingers and anti feminists who want to deflect from genuine issues.

3. Why are you obsessed with my language? I haven’t picked you up on using annoying buzzwords like “neo-liberal” and “witch hunt”.

4. “Good People getting into power” Corbyn, Abbott, Williamson, McDonnell? Pull the other one.

2. So say you. But perhaps you might google the story further and see Naz Shah’s apology, and her comments about the poll.

3. No I wasn’t doing anything on purpose.

4. “Good people getting into power”. Yeah, pull the other one.

I’m out.

Right, I’m back.
 

4. That doesn’t mean we need the Corbyn club. It really doesn’t. Being different doesn’t mean better.