UK Politics Thread

What we need is a Labour Party with a clear and consistent Brexit policy (ideally advocating remain) whilst also tackling the anti-semitism that obviously exists. It’s all very well saying that’s been blown up by the right (which it obviously has) but it still exists. And it’s possible to have a Labour Party that still opposes the actions of Israel. But Corbyn just doesn’t seem to want to address these issues - he should be making hay while the Tories are on the verge of implosion, instead he’s allowing Labour to give them a run for their money. 

Lets just switch the argument to anti-semitism as being the bigger issue rather than holding states like Israel to account. It doesn't have to be either or. You can be critical of Israeli foreign and domestic policy in a logical sense and still tackle anti-semitism at home. 

I wouldn’t agree that this outcome wouldn’t happen to a “white British convert” , who had parents with alternative citizenship. We simply cannot know how a person of different characteristics would be treated in the same situation , as this is the first case that I have encountered which deals with these factors. Ms Begum’s characteristics are incidental, and the real issue is her participation in IS. She has also exacerbated the situation with her comments at the weekend, which indicates somebody who maintains sympathetic views to IS and their religious supremacy and acts committed in its name.

The issue is not so much nationality as citizenship. Citizenship is revocable, and there is the belief amongst some that she falls within the criteria. This will be subject to serious legal scrutiny, and she will have significant legal recourse and protections. But I don’t believe laws which revoke citizenship are automatically racist. They apply to all who cannot be left stateless, so they are ensured of statehood.

In this specific case, I agree with your views on what Bangladesh has to do with it, or why thy should carry the can. They will have their own laws which will undoubtedly impact the case. I also believe bringing her home could have the benefits of her understanding of matters key to security. If she is open to

discussing when, where and how she was radicalised, and who radicalised her that could be valuable in the fight against ISIS. I feel these are questions that won’t be answered if she doesn’t return

But you’ll notice that there has been very little done to champion her case from any side of the political divide, which is why I feel there is no racial aspect to this. Again, this returns it to the involvement of ISIS in this case. Also, there remains legitimate safety concerns which will have to be dispelled.

Legally, it will all come down to whether she will or will not be left stateless. The facts of that will only come out in the fullness of time as the process trundles on, however, she is being legally represented and will have due process available.

Not sure if it's in your legal field but would the Irish (or British state in this Begum case) not reserve the right to just revoke your citizenship if it's been proven you left the country to join or assist an extremist/designated terrorist organisation such as ISIS and simply just leave you in Syria? 

Would you need to be brought back to the country for trial first?