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That type of approach worked sooo well for Greece in 2015.
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what does the U.K. have to sell to the EU that the EU can source within the EU 27?

May be of oil and weapons - some royal family memorabilia?

Can someone in the know tell me?

Edit: not that we are in any better position.


Edited by Dalymount79 - 13 Dec 2018 at 5:00pm
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Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

what does the U.K. have to sell to the EU that the EU can source within the EU 27?

May be of oil and weapons - some royal family memorabilia?

Can someone in the know tell me?

Edit: not that we are in any better position.

Cars, electric cars! Like the Nissan one which takes 24 hours to charge for a 6 hour journey!
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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

what does the U.K. have to sell to the EU that the EU can source within the EU 27?

May be of oil and weapons - some royal family memorabilia?

Can someone in the know tell me?

Edit: not that we are in any better position.

Cars, electric cars! Like the Nissan one which takes 24 hours to charge for a 6 hour journey!
Nissan could move that factory anywhere in Europe with minimal upheaval 
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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

what does the U.K. have to sell to the EU that the EU can source within the EU 27?

May be of oil and weapons - some royal family memorabilia?

Can someone in the know tell me?

Edit: not that we are in any better position.

Cars, electric cars! Like the Nissan one which takes 24 hours to charge for a 6 hour journey!
Nissan could move that factory anywhere in Europe with minimal upheaval 

Yup. And it would actually cripple the North East.

Middlesbrough is already crippled from the factory closures which lost 5 figure jobs
Newcastle would be rocked by it but it'd recover 
Sunderland would just be dead in the water, it already has the 2nd highest unemployment in the country and that's with Nissan.
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Some of those workers voted for it so have zero sympathy for those that did
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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

what does the U.K. have to sell to the EU that the EU can source within the EU 27?

May be of oil and weapons - some royal family memorabilia?

Can someone in the know tell me?

Edit: not that we are in any better position.

Cars, electric cars! Like the Nissan one which takes 24 hours to charge for a 6 hour journey!
Nissan could move that factory anywhere in Europe with minimal upheaval 


Indeed. The EU concluded a deal this week with Japan after 5 years of talks. The deal will come into effect in early 2019. The EU can now import Japanese vehicles (free from tariffs) direct from Japan. If or when the UK leaves the Customs Union and Single Market how long will it be before the Japanese close the plants????


Edited by colemanY2K - 13 Dec 2018 at 7:37pm
"One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942.
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Jaguar Land Rover has announced lay offs of nearly 400 agency workers as it moves production of the Discovery model to Slovakia #Brexit


Tis only the tip of the iceberg.
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Land Rover goes overseas.  That's new USP.


How stupid will they feel when Brexit doesn't happenLOL



The shipping industry are all taking their ships and trade overseas too.  Some of them have been leaving in their droves from Dover and Folkestone and other ports.  I think some of the companies are indecisive whether to stay in the UK or not as some of them keep coming back and then leaving again.


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Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Jaguar Land Rover has announced lay offs of nearly 400 agency workers as it moves production of the Discovery model to Slovakia #Brexit


Tis only the tip of the iceberg.
Sure look at GM in the US, it’s the exact same scenario & as Dinny says some of these idiots voted for Brexit (Trump)
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Land Rover goes overseas.  That's new USP.


How stupid will they feel when Brexit doesn't happenLOL



The shipping industry are all taking their ships and trade overseas too.  Some of them have been leaving in their droves from Dover and Folkestone and other ports.  I think some of the companies are indecisive whether to stay in the UK or not as some of them keep coming back and then leaving again.


Not very. These decisions have to be taken now and not left to the last-minute 
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Land Rover goes overseas.  That's new USP.


How stupid will they feel when Brexit doesn't happenLOL



The shipping industry are all taking their ships and trade overseas too.  Some of them have been leaving in their droves from Dover and Folkestone and other ports.  I think some of the companies are indecisive whether to stay in the UK or not as some of them keep coming back and then leaving again.


Not very. These decisions have to be taken now and not left to the last-minute 


Dig up stupid!
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Land Rover goes overseas.  That's new USP.


How stupid will they feel when Brexit doesn't happenLOL



The shipping industry are all taking their ships and trade overseas too.  Some of them have been leaving in their droves from Dover and Folkestone and other ports.  I think some of the companies are indecisive whether to stay in the UK or not as some of them keep coming back and then leaving again.


Not very. These decisions have to be taken now and not left to the last-minute 


Dig up stupid!
Apologies misread your post Embarrassed
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Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

what does the U.K. have to sell to the EU that the EU can source within the EU 27?

May be of oil and weapons - some royal family memorabilia?

Can someone in the know tell me?

Edit: not that we are in any better position.

Cars, electric cars! Like the Nissan one which takes 24 hours to charge for a 6 hour journey!
Nissan could move that factory anywhere in Europe with minimal upheaval 


Indeed. The EU concluded a deal this week with Japan after 5 years of talks. The deal will come into effect in early 2019. The EU can now import Japanese vehicles (free from tariffs) direct from Japan. If or when the UK leaves the Customs Union and Single Market how long will it be before the Japanese close the plants????
I believe the Nissan plant is safe in Sunderland for the most of a decade. By safe, I don't mean it will necessarily be on the same size or there won't be job losses, especially after a no-deal Brexit, but it is almost unthinkable they would close their biggest European plant after sinking so much into the place.
What is most likely to happen in the event of tariffs being added to Uk made cars being sold in the EU is that they will gradually start downsizing and make cars solely for the UK market. There will probably be a spike in UK made car sales in Britain. I believe Nissan have a similar plant in St. Petersburg for the Russian market.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

what does the U.K. have to sell to the EU that the EU can source within the EU 27?

May be of oil and weapons - some royal family memorabilia?

Can someone in the know tell me?

Edit: not that we are in any better position.

Cars, electric cars! Like the Nissan one which takes 24 hours to charge for a 6 hour journey!
Nissan could move that factory anywhere in Europe with minimal upheaval 


Indeed. The EU concluded a deal this week with Japan after 5 years of talks. The deal will come into effect in early 2019. The EU can now import Japanese vehicles (free from tariffs) direct from Japan. If or when the UK leaves the Customs Union and Single Market how long will it be before the Japanese close the plants????
I believe the Nissan plant is safe in Sunderland for the most of a decade. By safe, I don't mean it will necessarily be on the same size or there won't be job losses, especially after a no-deal Brexit, but it is almost unthinkable they would close their biggest European plant after sinking so much into the place.
What is most likely to happen in the event of tariffs being added to Uk made cars being sold in the EU is that they will gradually start downsizing and make cars solely for the UK market. There will probably be a spike in UK made car sales in Britain. I believe Nissan have a similar plant in St. Petersburg for the Russian market.
 
The plant in question is a monster within the industry though, it’s bigger than a lot of European countries total motor industry. Europe is by far its biggest market and if production slows due to tariffs etc id doubt Nissan would have issue with moving the plant. 

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I can only see two options A No Deal, or a referendum to stay. 

No matter what deal options are struck with the EU it will never ever come remotely close to satisfying everyone and will be shot down again and again, a new leader, a general election, a labour government same sh*t. 

When they eventualy vote to remain back in the EU, The Brexiteers can go back to shouting against the man, and the circle will continue EU bad, imperialist superior Britishness is better 
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I don't think even a company like Nissan could just up-sticks overnight. That is why they will be in the area for at least a decade or so. What is most likely to happen, as I alluded to above, is that they will start downsizing and leave the Sunderland plant for the UK domestic market. It will certainly lead to job losses.

It will essentially be Brexit in microcosm; the damage will be longer term and longer lasting. 
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