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The coverage so far is sickening the sh*t out of me. you can't go a night without seeing some sh*te about ukip on the tele. they are a tiny disgusting minority party why are they getting so much airtime?
 
 
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VICE article on UKIP party conference shows what nutters they all are.  Every single one of them. But also shows a bit why people in deprived areas see them as an option. 

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UKIP are saying in public what tories and the people who support them say in private! 
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Winston McKenzie from that article is Leon's uncle. The family still have a boxing club in Croydon
you were probably told to leave an Irish centre one night but kept mouthing off and some big church going Gaa player f**ked you out the door hence your hatred for the Catholic Church and Gaa aswell!
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I'd think I'd vote for the Prophet Zebediah and the Al-Zebabist Nation of OOOG ahead of Farrage.  Al Murray running against Farrage too as his pub landlord character.

Would remind you of that Black Mirror episode - Vote for WALDO. 


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Isn't Farage Al Murray? There are lots of similarities
you were probably told to leave an Irish centre one night but kept mouthing off and some big church going Gaa player f**ked you out the door hence your hatred for the Catholic Church and Gaa aswell!
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i reckon UKIP will win 5 seats absolute tops. Parts of Kent and Essex full of displaced Londoners who rightly or wrongly feel they have been forced out of the areas they were brought up in.  I am all for an open and transparent debate on immigration but how on earth can they be expect to be taken seriously with so many wallys in the party who come out with racist and politically incorrect gibberish any time there is mic in front of them. They are posh spaz's. I am sick of hearing about them every day.

I hate them all. No doubt Labour will romp home in Rotheram despite the local Labour run council being too cowardly to flag up horrific wide scale child abuse by Pakistani gangs for fear of being called racist. We are Northeners we vote Labour regardless. Jesus wept. Labour will try and spend the UK into oblivion and allow large number of unskilled migrants in to heap further pressure on the NHS which they seem to keen to reform. They are miles from the Labour party of old.

The Tories will press on with crippling cuts and 0 hour contracts while allowing the bankers cart blanche to do what they want and turning a blind eye to all of the old toffs who were balls deep in kids for years.

The Greens need to be sectioned. 

The SNP are in a serious bargain position it has to be said. The only party i do not mind in the UK. 


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Gauntlet has been thrown down to Cameron by the broadcasters, they've effectively said they'd be prepared to empty chair him. Even in the head to head debate and give Miliband a free run
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Gauntlet has been thrown down to Cameron by the broadcasters, they've effectively said they'd be prepared to empty chair him. Even in the head to head debate and give Miliband a free run

That would be amazing.  Although Miliband is so charisma-free the chair might win. 
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Originally posted by BrenC BrenC wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Gauntlet has been thrown down to Cameron by the broadcasters, they've effectively said they'd be prepared to empty chair him. Even in the head to head debate and give Miliband a free run


That would be amazing.  Although Miliband is so charisma-free the chair might win. 


the chair would be odds on

Interesting election as others have said (which reminds me I must apply for postal/proxy vote) SNP could be kingmakers if they do as well as expected in Scotland.

UKIP wont do well, though their single figure number of MP's will be spun as a seismic event comparable to Labour sweeping to power in 45
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Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by BrenC BrenC wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Gauntlet has been thrown down to Cameron by the broadcasters, they've effectively said they'd be prepared to empty chair him. Even in the head to head debate and give Miliband a free run


That would be amazing.  Although Miliband is so charisma-free the chair might win. 


the chair would be odds on

Interesting election as others have said (which reminds me I must apply for postal/proxy vote) SNP could be kingmakers if they do as well as expected in Scotland.

UKIP wont do well, though their single figure number of MP's will be spun as a seismic event comparable to Labour sweeping to power in 45

I'm not so sure the SNP want to be kingmakers,sh*t stirrers may be a better description. I can't see the SNP getting all the seats they are predicting though it would be some night if we did. It would never be pay back for Sept but it would be great to see some of the unionists out of a job.
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Really hope one of the papers gets someone dressed as a chicken to follow Dave around if he doesn't turn up for any of the debates

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Former Tory Home Secretary Kenneth Baker suggesting a Tory Labour coalition in the event of a hung parliament where the SNP held the balance of power. That would be Labour finished in the north of England if they did it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-31776943
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Brilliant article from Kevin McKenna in the Guardian explaining Labours collapse in Scotland has been coming for a long time. Well worth a read... http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/07/scottish-labour-party-need-to-get-act-together-union-general-election

The union is once again at risk – thanks to Labour

The party doesn’t understand that by siding with the Tories on the referendum it alienated many voters forever


And so, 18 September 2014, didn’t bring us the end of the United Kingdom; merely the beginning of the end. The buglers even now are sounding a renewed call to arms – Nelson in The SpectatorHastings in the Daily Mailand Kettle in The Guardian.

Soon the pale horses will have cleared the Roman wall and the thunder of hooves will be heard all the way up the M74, just as they were last September when the union was last deemed to be in mortal danger. Then they thought they had seen the last of Scottish truculence and it was back to business as normal: administering the unfair and unequal British state. But now a Tory lord has produced figures which confirm that the social, political and cultural fires which lit up Scotland in the two years before the referendum burn still.

Lord Ashcroft’s polling figures last week predicted that the SNP may be on course to take more than 50 of Scotland’s 59 Westminster seats on 7 May. The previous month, he polled in areas of the country which had been most in favour of independence and these pointed to a nationalist landslide, too. His second poll indicated that even in unionist strongholds such as Gordon Brown’s Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath and Charles Kennedy’s Ross, Skye and Lochaber an SNP windfall awaits. What will unfold between now and the election is not merely about how many seats Labour in Scotland can salvage, but whether or not Labour has a sustainable future in Scotland. And if it goes down then the union is in danger of going down with it, for the Scottish nationalists will, for the first time, have control of some of the UK’s levers of power.

Ashcroft’s numbers, and those of the clutch of national polls which preceded them, point to the fact that the political landscape of Scotland is undergoing a profound and generational change. The referendum on Scottish independence may only have been a staging post on the journey. Nationalists have managed to bridle the winds of change, while Labour in Scotland is in grave danger of being blown away by them. It has failed to understand what has happened in Scotland and this has been woefully apparent in its immediate response to the Ashcroft poll. With barely two months until the general election and with the party facing an apocalypse in Scotland its response was, once more, to attempt to scare their own voters.

Jim Murphy, whose own safe seat in East Renfrewshire is threatened, said: “These polls are great news for David Cameron.” This empty and meaningless mantra was repeated ad nauseam throughout the day. In the last eight years, Labour in Scotland has lost two elections, one of them a landslide, to the SNP. It saw more than 30% of supporters vote Yes in the referendum and now it faces being left with fewer than a handful of seats in its heartlands. Yet, in the face of this, its only response was: “Vote SNP, get Tories.” It was pathetic and displayed a fundamental ignorance of what has been happening in its backyards.

That old ship sailed a long, long time ago. The multitudes of former Labour supporters who have migrated to the SNP now believe that Labour and the Tories are indivisible.

The voters aren’t stupid. The Scottish electorate is more sophisticated and more knowledgeable than any previous generation. Scots under the age of 30 voted overwhelmingly in favour of independence and they have access to more streams of information and are consuming their politics from more vivid, rock’n’roll providers. They have ceased to trust what they were being fed by traditional media and have turned to websites such as Wings Over ScotlandBella Caledoniaand Newsnet Scotland. The numbers following these websites are approaching six figures and their crowd-funding enterprises have allowed them budgets to rival those of many newspaper commissioning editors. They can no longer be regarded as peripheral players on Scotland’s media terrain and their forensic scrutiny of the claims of politicians and newspapers is driving tens of thousands of voters away from Labour.

Labour in Scotland doesn’t understand that it is being punished for campaigning with the Tories every inch of the way to defeat independence. It failed to produce its own model of a socially progressive United Kingdom for the 21st century that stood alone. Instead, it hitched its wagons to a discredited one in which disproportionate influence is still wielded by a tiny elite and where the financial incontinence of wealth producers goes unchecked.

Labour has been judged by the new nationalists not to have opposed this system sufficiently well at Westminster and that perceived failure is reaping a bitter harvest for it in Scotland. No amount of policy initiatives by Ed Miliband can dislodge this thought from the minds of Labour’s lost Scottish generation.

If the party is to be spared in Scotland then it needs to come out fighting and remind supporters that every yard of social progress that has been achieved in this country was won by a radical Labour party that once challenged the hegemony of privilege and unearned wealth in the UK. It needs to do this again and not by producing an austerity-lite programme. When younger voters are told that a period of austerity will nurse us all back to economic health, they simply want to see evidence that we are all in it together. Instead, they see rich Conservatives bidding hundreds of thousands to shop with Theresa May or take tea with Boris Johnson. 

They see HSBC help our richest citizens to avoid paying their fair share and RBS bosses continuing to award themselves grotesque millions. This happens in an environment where social mobility and self-improvement is limited to what the ruling elite finds comfortable and thus our place near the top of the table of Europe’s most unequal societies is preserved. If it’s to be austerity it must be austerity for all.

If UK Labour can’t or won’t carry out this task then the Scottish party must uncouple from Westminster, take up the standard and dare to be radical once more in restoring balance within our uneven society. I fear that it may be too late, though.




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