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BabbsBalls wrote: thebronze14 wrote: BabbsBalls wrote: I live in a two-bed terraced house. I have a modest job and don’t have a tower ,Ivory or otherwise . Thanks . Your attitude to those worse off is still highly condesending whether you live in a castle or a caravan No it’s not. Society today has us blaming everyone bar ourselves . I’m just of the opinion that from a certain age we are responsible for our own choices, which we are. How’s thats condescending I don’t know..

Edited by pre Madonna - 05 Dec 2017 at 3:47pm

Roberto Baggio wrote: pre Madonna wrote: BabbsBalls wrote: In all the time on ybig i have never seen you lose the head in a debate PM. For that reason I call bullsh*t on your anecdote about your “friend” How have I lost the head? I merely said how your viewpoint is coming across to me, it would seem others see it as condescending. I try to help out some homeless people in some small way because if it wasn't for my girlfriend having the love and patience of a saint, I would probably be homeless now. I merely gave you one example of a normal young guy I know who finds himself homeless and then you decided to try and understand it further, but in a bizarre way that seems to echo your own background. This  is why I suggested that you are incapable of empathy as you can only see things based on your own experiences. I find this either ignorant, naive or , most likely, a little of both. By the way, and for what it is worth, I have, once lost my head on here, with Rolo and over nothing in particular. Despite the length of time I have spent on here, I can honestly say it is the only time I have ever taken this, or anything else on the internet, seriously and it something that I still find embarrassing when I think about it. I can assure you I haven't lost anything as the missus is away so I'm eating pizza, watching Family Guy on tv and about to interrupt this debate by having a wank.   Just not all at once I hope

BabbsBalls wrote: thebronze14 wrote: BabbsBalls wrote: I live in a two-bed terraced house. I have a modest job and don’t have a tower ,Ivory or otherwise . Thanks . Your attitude to those worse off is still highly condesending whether you live in a castle or a caravan No it’s not. Society today has us blaming everyone bar ourselves . I’m just of the opinion that from a certain age we are responsible for our own choices, which we are. How’s thats condescending I don’t know..

FAO The Bronze..

I do of course ,yeah, as my previous posts show. There are people out there who haven’t had a sniff of luck and have ended up on the streets as a result. It’s horrible for anyone to have to go through that . Im of ye opinion that these cases are in the vast minority... look at the factors that lead to homelessness. Example, lad loses his job and things go from there. For him and his family to end of on the street so many things have to happen...

1. Loses job
2. Doesn’t meet criteria to get another job.
3. Wife/partner (if not single) has no job.
4. No savings in bank so payments on mortgage/rent not met .
5. Bank repossesses home (extremely rare situation) or landlord rips up lease.
6. Family/individual has no family willing to house them temporarily.
7. Family/individual has no friends willing to house them temporarily.

That’s a lot of things that need to fall into place in this case. Are some of these factors responsibility of the individual ? Make your own judgement on that. Of course there are genuine cases which is awful. I’m not stupid enough to believe there aren’t.


Edited by BabbsBalls - 05 Dec 2017 at 4:10pm

BabbsBalls wrote: heighway2heaven wrote: BabbsBalls wrote: thebronze14 wrote: BabbsBalls wrote: I live in a two-bed terraced house. I have a modest job and don’t have a tower ,Ivory or otherwise . Thanks . Your attitude to those worse off is still highly condesending whether you live in a castle or a caravan No it’s not. Society today has us blaming everyone bar ourselves . I’m just of the opinion that from a certain age we are responsible for our own choices, which we are. How’s thats condescending I don’t know.. No, it has us blaming everybody but those we should be... the structures of power that have created and sustained the conditions for such level of poverty and homelessness. The public blames the refugees, social welfare recipients, ourselves even, rather than the banks that caused it and the politicians that allowed them off with impunity while foisting the austerity on to us. That’s another days work. If that’s how you feel on it what do you think the government could/should do ?

heighway2heaven wrote: BabbsBalls wrote: thebronze14 wrote: BabbsBalls wrote: I live in a two-bed terraced house. I have a modest job and don’t have a tower ,Ivory or otherwise . Thanks . Your attitude to those worse off is still highly condesending whether you live in a castle or a caravan No it’s not. Society today has us blaming everyone bar ourselves . I’m just of the opinion that from a certain age we are responsible for our own choices, which we are. How’s thats condescending I don’t know.. No, it has us blaming everybody but those we should be... the structures of power that have created and sustained the conditions for such level of poverty and homelessness. The public blames the refugees, social welfare recipients, ourselves even, rather than the banks that caused it and the politicians that allowed them off with impunity while foisting the austerity on to us.

Hi lads. What do you think of Francis N'Gannou.

Stunning KO. Great post match interview. Looking forward to the title fight

BabbsBalls wrote: I genuinely sympathise with people who’s luck had genuinely run out akin to Dan Akryod in Brewsters millions but the issue is rife with people who have made seriously bad choices.