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    Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 7:13pm
Due to kick off in September 2018. According to the link below we are currently in Division AShocked

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/news/newsid=2437695.html#how+uefa+nations+league+could+line
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Is this replacing the normal Euro qualifiers system??
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Division A
Germany, France, Belgium, Portugal, Switzerland, Spain, England, Italy, Croatia, Poland, Republic of Ireland, Ukraine
 
That would be an utter balls for our world rankings.
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Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Is this replacing the normal Euro qualifiers system??
No it's just a tournament that will replace meaningless friendlies.  Normal Euro qualifiers will still happen
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Division A
Germany, France, Belgium, Portugal, Switzerland, Spain, England, Italy, Croatia, Poland, Republic of Ireland, Ukraine
 
That would be an utter balls for our world rankings.


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Originally posted by LHurlz LHurlz wrote:

Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Is this replacing the normal Euro qualifiers system??
No it's just a tournament that will replace meaningless friendlies.  Normal Euro qualifiers will still happen
Actually there are 4 Euro spots up for grabs and I suspect it will eventually replace Euro qualifiers, if not WC qualifying too.
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Jesus we'll be in for a battering in that division. Cracking games though. Plus the odd Oman match for good measure.
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Originally posted by Bitored Bitored wrote:

Originally posted by LHurlz LHurlz wrote:

Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Is this replacing the normal Euro qualifiers system??
No it's just a tournament that will replace meaningless friendlies.  Normal Euro qualifiers will still happen
Actually there are 4 Euro spots up for grabs and I suspect it will eventually replace Euro qualifiers, if not WC qualifying too.
Might end up doing so in the long run, but Euro 2020 qualifiers will run as usual
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Unfortunately we are very unlikely to be in Group A.  It is decided based on 3 campaigns - 20% of 2014, 40% of 2016 and 40% of 2018.  

It is biased on the current results and since we have 10 points out of 12 in this campaign it is skewed.  We would probably need another 4 or even 5 wins to make Group A.

This site below only includes the current campaign on a game by game basis and factors in the total scores from the last 2.   It has us in 17th and while we are very close to Group A so are approx ten teams.  


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In fairness I think depends on the draw but it be a nice backdoor into the 2020 Euros as at least one from each division will qualify
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Originally posted by Bitored Bitored wrote:

Originally posted by LHurlz LHurlz wrote:

Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Is this replacing the normal Euro qualifiers system??
No it's just a tournament that will replace meaningless friendlies.  Normal Euro qualifiers will still happen
Actually there are 4 Euro spots up for grabs and I suspect it will eventually replace Euro qualifiers, if not WC qualifying too.
In fairness to UEFA, they have really simplified the tournament for 2020.
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There's a Euro 2020 spot up for grabs in that group of 4. Any team that comes top 2 in their group in qualifying is out of the running for that qualification spot. Could be a handy backdoor for someone (ie us!).

You could easily see a scenario where all of those teams end up in the top two of their Euro qualifying group.....
Germany, France, Belgium, Portugal, Switzerland, Spain, England, Italy, Croatia, Poland, Republic of Ireland, Ukraine

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The bottom 16 teams - the lower tier countries - are guaranteed one place at the tournament.

That will upset the elitist world cup snobs who think only the best teams should be involved.
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Originally posted by rolo rolo wrote:

The bottom 16 teams - the lower tier countries - are guaranteed one place at the tournament.

That will upset the elitist world cup snobs who think only the best teams should be involved.
 
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

There's a Euro 2020 spot up for grabs in that group of 4. Any team that comes top 2 in their group in qualifying is out of the running for that qualification spot. Could be a handy backdoor for someone (ie us!).

You could easily see a scenario where all of those teams end up in the top two of their Euro qualifying group.....
Germany, France, Belgium, Portugal, Switzerland, Spain, England, Italy, Croatia, Poland, Republic of Ireland, Ukraine


Yes if we can get into Group A we'd have a great chance.  Most of group A (if not all) will probably qualify for Euro2020.  We would surely at worst be in the 4 team playoff spot and even that would involve teams from Group B not good enough to qualify or be in the top 4 of Group B.  It may even include a couple from Group C.    

The top 10 in Group A would be top seeds for the 2020 draw as well.  

We'd also have the 2 home games v top sides and 2 cracking away games.  As I said above though it is unlikely we will make it.  
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Originally posted by rolo rolo wrote:

The bottom 16 teams - the lower tier countries - are guaranteed one place at the tournament.

That will upset the elitist world cup snobs who think only the best teams should be involved.


One team out of twenty four is fair enough, when the rest are basically all on merit.

A bloated 48 team world cup with vast numbers of teams who will likely be uncompetitive against the strongest teams is quite different, especially if other more competent teams are excluded.

It's a different argument entirely, and you don't need to construct a straw man or engage in ad hominems and call your opponents elitist snobs to try and somehow prove that your argument about the world cup is right and that anyone opposed to it but not opposed to this is a hypocrite. It is possible to agree with this and disagree with the expansion of the world cup: it's a balance between quality, competition and participation. One smaller team in the euros isn't going to affect that much; ten more mediocre teams in the world cup is more likely to do so. It's not black and white.

Anyway, we've all had this argument before and there's no real need to revisit it. We know where you stand; you know where others stand; it doesn't look like anyone is going to be persuaded otherwise.
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This is bad news for us, how can so many not see through this???

Its designed to give the bigger teams a second chance should they need it, and thats it.

Regular Euro qualifying is going to lose out on the 3rd place playoff spots for this.

And to be able to win one of the 4 nations league places you need to finish top 4 in league A!

Were never going to be in league A, let alone finish top 4!

Its designed so the top 12 teams in UEFA can win assure themselves qualification.

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