Uefa Financial Fair Play

Down with this sort of thing  

Nobody will ever break up the status quo again. It will be the same teams at the top forever. Fair play me hole. The likes of City, Chelsea, PSG, Anzhi and Malaga are making football better and more competitive 

Vivakenbarlow wrote: Landon Donovan wrote: Down with this sort of thing   Nobody will ever break up the status quo again. It will be the same teams at the top forever. Fair play me hole. The likes of City, Chelsea, PSG, Anzhi and Malaga are making football better and more competitive  Id imagine that there are a few leeds, portsmouth etc fans that might just disagree with you

Landon Donovan wrote: Down with this sort of thing   Nobody will ever break up the status quo again. It will be the same teams at the top forever. Fair play me hole. The likes of City, Chelsea, PSG, Anzhi and Malaga are making football better and more competitive

But thats the point landon city and chelsea are not making it competitive by gaining an unlimited treasure chest overnight at the stroke of a pen. theres no merit as far as im concerned to what chelsea and city achieve in my book. United worked their success from a relegation threatened club in 1986 thanks to a certain zcotsman

Vivakenbarlow wrote: Landon Donovan wrote: Down with this sort of thing   Nobody will ever break up the status quo again. It will be the same teams at the top forever. Fair play me hole. The likes of City, Chelsea, PSG, Anzhi and Malaga are making football better and more competitive  Id imagine that there are a few leeds, portsmouth etc fans that might just disagree with you

Tis capitalism Barlow, survival of the fittest, biggest cock gets the pussy 

roverstillidie wrote: Roberto Baggio wrote: i wud be doubtful if this will ever be enforced, i cant see uefa banning the likes of Chelsea or Real Madrid from the champions league in the near future if they dont meet the financial criteria, plus i could see the clubs taking out a legal challenge if they did   On what basis? They are all signed up, Europe is strictly invitational and they legally have to comply with the rules of the game. They can challenge this as easily as 11 players on the park

jackshat wrote: irishmufc wrote: But thats the point landon city and chelsea are not making it competitive by gaining an unlimited treasure chest overnight at the stroke of a pen. theres no merit as far as im concerned to what chelsea and city achieve in my book. United worked their success from a relegation threatened club in 1986 thanks to a certain zcotsman You will get a few nibbles with that little gem

Sssssh Dont tell anyone i said that will ya

It's a load of bollix in my opinion. If UEFA try and impose sanctions I can see the top clubs in Europe uniting to form their own league like they threatened to do in the past.

jackshat wrote: colemanY2K wrote: Well whats the latest with this? Chelsea, city and psg seem to be flaunting millions.....how will they comply They seem to be dodging it with ott sponsorship deals from their owners. Most of these deals won't even make it into the press.  The most obvious two were City renaming the stadium and United having DHL plastered all over their training gear.

Yes and no. Yes, in the City's owners are intimately connected with etihad. United's owners have nothing to do with DHL. It was purely a commercial deal. Nothing fishy about it at all. Admittedly, £10m a year for training kit is an extreme case, but it is a commercial deal.

Just finished reading Soccernomics by Simon Kuper and Stefan Szymanski, very good read. In it they say that UEFA knows that implementing the financial fair play rules will be a nightmare (just because you sign up to something doesn't mean you can't bring a case under EU laws against it by the way).

Anyway, to take the paragraphs from the book about financial fair play -

It's almost impossible to run a football club like a profit making business. This is because there will always be rival owners like the Cragnottis, the Abramoviches or the Gaddhafis who owned a chunk of Juventus. These people don't care about profits and will spend whatever it takes in the hope of winning prizes. All other club owners are forced to keep up with them.
If one owner doesn't pay large transfer fees or wages, someone else will and that someone else will get the best players and win prizes.

Big clubs like United, Real and Barcelona are not the problem, it's the lower tier teams across Europe that live on the edge of insolvency that are the main problem. Top tier teams mostly lose money too but they seldom become insolvent.

Platini should be worried about the likes of Bristol City and Portsmouth instead of Real Madrid.

If European Football clubs really did collapse beneath their debts, there would now be virtually no European football clubs left. 'We must be sustainable,' clubs say nowadays, parroting the latest business cliché. In fact they are fantastically sustainable. They survive even when they go bust. You can't get more sustainable than that. Match-fixing (say) is a much bigger problem for European football than bankruptcy. The near immortality of football clubs makes you wonder exactly what problem UEFA's rules on 'financial fair play' are meant to solve.

Platini worries about clubs' debts. But it's precisely because clubs are practically immortal that they run up such large debts. They know from experience that they can take on vast debts and survive. If things go wrong the debt simply does not get repaid, the old directors leave and new ones come in promising to sweep up the mess. A club like Bayern Munich, which shuns debt, is in fact missing a trick. Bayern could easily borrow a few hundred million euros to turn itself into the world's best team. Even if it flushed the money down the toilet and then said 'Nanananana' to the lenders, the club would survive. Right now, Bayern is  a marvelous self-sustaining debt-free business whereas most English clubs aren't. But the point of a football club isn't to have nice accounts - after all, the clubs with horrible accounts survive too. The point of a football club is to win trophies.