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If it's Sanders v Trump, Trump will win unless Bloomberg enters the race.The moderate Republicans who would probably even vote for Hillary ahead of Trump would be extremely unlikely to vote for Sanders. If Bloomberg enters it will throw the cat amongst the pigeons as he would be attractive to moderate Republicans and the Democrats who would be reluctantly voting for Sanders otherwise.
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Yeah, Trump v Sanders is the only way Bloomberg enters, and he'd likely have a great shot at a win. I doubt he'd enter in a Trump v Hillary contest. That would only hand Hillary victory.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sid waddell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 11:01pm
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

If it's Sanders v Trump, Trump will win unless Bloomberg enters the race.The moderate Republicans who would probably even vote for Hillary ahead of Trump would be extremely unlikely to vote for Sanders. If Bloomberg enters it will throw the cat amongst the pigeons as he would be attractive to moderate Republicans and the Democrats who would be reluctantly voting for Sanders otherwise.
Bloomberg has no chance whoever the nominees are.

In a hypothetical Trump v Sanders race, a limited number of polls show Sanders to be well ahead.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html


Edited by sid waddell - 10 Feb 2016 at 11:02pm
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I don't see the republican establishment allowing Trump to win, by fair means or foul they'll stop him. It's a scary thought but I reckon Trump would win the election.
And deluded as he is, I love watching him speak, it's like watching a standup.
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Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

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They are just voting to see who the party candidate will be. All the collegiate votes of each state will go to the party conventions and the candidate announced. The collegiate votes are weighted depended on the size of the state. New Hampsire have fock all, California loads.

Trump may still run as an independent if he fails in the nomination election


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He would but he'll have no chance as an independent.
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Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

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You would generally expect a person to understand their own question but possibly need help understanding the answer. I guess that's why you're a Mod.
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Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

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They are just voting to see who the party candidate will be. All the collegiate votes of each state will go to the party conventions and the candidate announced. The collegiate votes are weighted depended on the size of the state. New Hampsire have fock all, California loads.

Trump may still run as an independent if he fails in the nomination election

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Originally posted by Just saying like Just saying like wrote:

Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

Can anyone explain my questionCry
You would generally expect a person to understand their own question but possibly need help understanding the answer. I guess that's why you're a Mod.

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Bernie, as much as I would love to be proved wrong, has no hope of winning ths democratic nomination, he knew this at the outset I am sure. He has more than achieved what I feel were his goals; to introduce the word socialism into American political debate without universally negative connotations, to show that a campaign can be run without the backing of big business and Wall Street, to drag sections of the Democratic party to the left of centre and to show you can question American foreign policy and not being unpatriotic. In the end though Clinton will comfortably win, but in 15-20 years time, when n economically left of centre president is elected, I am sure that Bernie will be thanked.

Far more worrying is the Republican debate, while Trump is the comic villain of the piece, I am not sure he is the most dangerous. Cruz and Rubio are completely unhinged, just are not as amusing. Some of Cruz's views are as redneck as they come, in a recent debate, he claimed Clinton would allow abortions up until the last week of pregnancy and Rubio is little better. I am not so sure that Trump isn't the best of an awful lot.
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In the Republican race Rubio is the candidate I have fancied to win from a long way out and after Iowa that looked like a good bet as he polled better than expected. However I think he may have shot himself in the foot with his robot impersonation at the weekend. 

Christie and Fiorina have now pulled out of the race.

Carson will surely not be far behind. 

There are effectively five people still in the race - Trump and Cruz on the batsh*t crazy flying pink elephant wing of the party, Kasich, Rubio and Bush on the merely crazy establishment wing.

I think Trump will burn Cruz off.

That means an establishment candidate has to emerge from Kasich, Rubio and Bush, burning two off of them off in the process, to challenge Trump.

I'm increasingly thinking it could be Kasich, who polled well enough in New Hampshire.







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True enough PM, you can't be quite sure Trump means everything he says, but scarily, the other 2 mean every word. We may have generations of parochial gombeens for representatives, but none of them have a chance of getting near commanding a nuclear arsenal any time soon, in the US, being affiliated to one or other party means you nearly automatically get close to it when the election reaches that point. 






 


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Rubio has huge financial support behind him. I think he will emerge against Cruz. I can see Trump drifting.
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Rubio has huge financial support behind him. I think he will emerge against Cruz. I can see Trump drifting.
He's a terrible dweeb, though, and is beginning to look out of his depth. 

Trump and Cruz are basically fishing in the same pool, or at least very similar pools, for votes. 

Trump is well ahead in the polls for next two states up which are South Carolina and Nevada. 

That should give him a good bit of momentum ahead of Super Tuesday on March 1st when something like 12 or 13 states vote. 

If he pulls well ahead of Cruz on March 1st, it's over.
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Agreed, I could be very wrong, but I think his novelty has worn off a bit. It must be remembered that Republicans have very short attention plans, Trump has had his moment. Cruz's craziness, or Cruziness if you will, is a more long lasting lunacy. Rubio is a bit awkward alright, but has friends in all the right places.
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