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MC Hammered
Jack Charlton Joined: 05 Oct 2011 Status: Offline Points: 6870 |
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Killer Mike is a strong speaker. He campaigned hard for Bernie Sanders in the past and has socialist views. He’s a voice worth listening to. Run the Jewels have some good tracks also
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El Puto Amo
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planning
Ray Houghton Football version of Comical Ali. Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Status: Offline Points: 3836 |
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The cop was arrested and charged within 3 days. It has been dealt with swiftly and he will be held accountable for his actions in time. That should be the end of the issue. But no, there are people there howling at the moon and making the situation worse. The wider issue has been around American politics long before Trump arrived and will be long after he's gone. Protesting about it in the way they do achieves nothing but headlines. Biden has already had his turn to help do something about it, and failed. It would be no different next year either.
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thebronze14
Jack Charlton Derry City Til I Die Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Location: Dublin/Donegal Status: Offline Points: 7172 |
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What a complete sh*theap of a country
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sid waddell
Roy Keane On a dark desert highway Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12173 |
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Go and f**k yourself, you racist piece of sh*t.
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sid waddell
Roy Keane On a dark desert highway Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12173 |
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A third degree murder charge is a total insult to the black community, and is meant as such. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/29/george-floyd-death-benjamin-crump-jasmine-rand The death of George Floyd was an act of murder, plain and simpleThe Minneapolis police department’s failure to arrest the officers responsible threatens our most basic sense of justice Ben Crump and Jasmine Rand “Get off of his neck.” “Please! Please!” “I can’t breathe.” Police in America have far too many non-lethal ways to reliably kill black men without facing criminal charges. The weaponization of racism does not require a gun or a bullet. In this case, a police officer’s knee was the weapon used to kill George Floyd. The observing officers’ indifference was also a weapon used to kill Floyd, and the Minneapolis police department’s failure to arrest the officers responsible is a weapon threatening to kill our most basic sense of justice. Most law enforcement agencies classify weapons and use of physical force into two broad categories: “lethal” and “non-lethal”. Officers regularly convert “non-lethal” weapons and physical force into deadly force and hide behind the agency’s classification system to avoid criminal charges. In reality, any weapon or any use of physical force can cause death when misused. Police batons kill people. Tasers kill people. Chokeholds kill people. Kneeling on someone’s neck for eight minutes kills people. You don’t need to attend the police academy to know that if you obstruct someone’s airway they will eventually stop breathing, and if you cannot breathe you will die. Mike Freeman, the district attorney, is required by the laws of the state of Minnesota to charge the police officer who kneeled on Floyd’s neck with first-degree murder. Similarly, the officers who watched their fellow officer do it, failed to intervene and stopped other citizens from trying to save Floyd’s life should also be charged. The officers served as judge, jury and executioners of George Floyd when they killed him in the street; and they should face life sentences for First-Degree Murder in a court of law. A first-degree murder charge in Minnesota requires that a person acts to “cause the death of a human being with premeditation and with intent to effect the death of the person”. The video evidence clearly shows that the officers acted with the intent to kill and with premeditation. Floyd told the officers he could not breathe 12 times, including within the first few seconds of the video. Floyd said: “I’m about to die … they’re gonna kill me,” and called out for his mother. He lost consciousness, stopped breathing and his body went limp after four minutes. Forty seconds later witnesses told officers that Floyd was unresponsive. At least 16 times they asked the officers to take his pulse. The officers even prevented a woman who identified herself as an EMT from trying to save his life. Two minutes and 20 seconds after Floyd lost consciousness, witnesses began to say: “They just killed him.” The officers all knew that Floyd was unconscious, was not breathing, that his body was limp, but an officer kept his knee pressed on his windpipe, making sure he did not breathe for another four minutes, despite witnesses’ relentless insistence that he was dying. If the witnesses knew he was dying, the officers knew he was dying. The officers knew that Floyd needed oxygen to live, but they never attempted CPR, never took his pulse and never tried to save his life. Racism is the eye staring down the barrel of our justice system and threatening to pull the trigger. Recall that only after a mass protest movement did the officer who killed Eric Garner in a chokehold face any consequences. Freeman cannot allow the Minneapolis police officers who killed Floyd to elude criminal charges under the weak, shameful excuse that the level of force used was “non-lethal”, or that the officers didn’t know that Floyd would die without oxygen. That argument is as dishonest as saying they didn’t know what happens to a fish out of water. We can all visualize that image: the fish out of water, its mouth open and gasping for air; and we all know the fish is going to die, just like the officers knew that Floyd was going to die. We encourage people to call Mike Freeman at (612) 348-5550 and demand that the officers involved in killing George Floyd be charged with first-degree murder. |
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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 25085 |
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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Double Maxim
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Double Maxim without doubt the greatest drink in the world
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sid waddell
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Of course Barr is claiming the exact opposite - they always accuse others of what they themselves are guilty of. Minnesota officials say many of the violent protesters who have caused widespread damage are from out of state. Authorities have been monitoring alleged criminals online, including postings by suspected white supremacists trying to incite violence. It appears to be a widespread, organized attempt to infiltrate the protests, escalate the violence, and force either a nationwide racial confrontation or push Donald Trump into action, either way moving toward a takeover of the country and establishment of a white ethnostate. None of this is tinfoil hat stuff. It's been brewing for decades. These groups have been training and prepping and planning for a moment like this. It appears, for many of them, this is the Go Moment and are aggressively using the protests as a catalyst and cover.
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Jackal
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So is Trump the favourite to win their election?
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sid waddell
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https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pkyb9b/far-right-extremists-are-hoping-to-turn-the-george-floyd-protests-into-a-new-civil-war
By Tess Owen May 29 2020, 10:41pm Far-Right Extremists Are Hoping to Turn the George Floyd Protests Into a New Civil WarArmed extremists are showing up to protests and urging a “boogaloo” — code for civil war — online.Far-right extremists are showing up, with guns, to the protests against police brutality that have exploded across the country. Others are egging on the violence from behind their computers, urging followers to carry out acts of violence against black protesters with the goal of sparking a “race war.” Their presence makes an uneasy addition to the escalating unrest, which was triggered by the death of George Floyd, a black man who was choked to death by a white Minneapolis police officer earlier this week. But there’s a range of motivations that’s driving far-right interest toward the protests, which are being led by community members and Black Lives Matter, and bolstered by antifascists. For example, the so-called Boogaloo Bois — a group of armed anti-government extremists made visible by their Hawaiian shirts — have reportedly shown up to some of the protests. The “boogaloo” is code for impending civil war or violent confrontation with law enforcement, and that’s what they’re hoping to get out of the protests. Their main reason for being there is their antipathy toward law enforcement, and so they’re trying to position themselves as allies of Black Lives Matter protesters. They’ve made police brutality one of their central issues, which was explored at length in a Bellingcat article this week. Their approach to police brutality links the victims of the deadly standoff with federal agents at Ruby Ridge in 1992, to the victims of modern police brutality, including Floyd. But unlike the vast majority of protesters, they refuse to acknowledge the fact that police brutality is an issue that disproportionately impacts people of color. There have been scattered reports of Boogaloo Bois’ presence at the protests, which were compiled by a Bellingcat investigative journalist in a thread. He includes an audio clip (stripped of video per activists’ requests) of protesters saying they’d wrestled a handgun from a “white nationalist” agitator — whom he describes as a Boogaloo Boi who became overly rowdy. Another photo, shared across private Boogaloo Facebook pages, showed one of their own unfurling their trademark flag during the Minneapolis protests. And one protester posted a picture of himself wearing a gas mask to Instagram, under the hashtag #Boogaloo. While some Boogaloo Bois say they’re just libertarians, others will, on occasion, veer into racism — and make no secret of their desire for violence. In addition to their physical presence at the protests, the #boogaloo hashtag on social media has been flooded with memes in the last couple days egging on violence, and talking about how they hope this is the beginning of a civil war. While more established militia types sometimes share those perspectives, they often view themselves as intermediaries between law enforcement and civilians. For example, two armed white men were interviewed by the Minnesota Reformer, a local independent news organization, outside a tobacco store in Minneapolis this week. They said they were protecting businesses from looters, but were also there to defend civilians should they need to. “Cops are less likely to tread on people’s rights when there’s other armed people around them,” one of the men told the interviewer. Local activists identified another group in Minneapolis as members of the III% militia, one of the largest militia networks in the U.S. But perhaps the most troubling of all are the hardcore “accelerationists” who are encouraging their neo-Nazi followers to go to the protests and carry out acts of violence against black people — all with the goal of “exacerbating the ethnic tensions” and sparking a “race war.” Accelerationists promote violence to speed up the collapse of society. An eco-fascist Telegram channel wrote to its nearly 2,500 subscribers on Thursday that “a riot would be the perfect place to commit a murder.” Accelerationists often seek to exploit moments of political or civil unrest, and the widespread protests that have unfolded across the country fit the bill. Similarly, 4chan is full of racists cheering the violence and saying that they hope it’s the beginning of a “race war.” |
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Artie Ziff
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Fully agree |
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It would damage this forums' reputation
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sid waddell
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That doesn't provide any insight.
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Artie Ziff
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True
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It would damage this forums' reputation
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zizu Kilbane
Jack Charlton Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 8364 |
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The rubber bullets are out and predictably causing meyham...a Guardian journalist lost an eye.
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"Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?"
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Mulvanystrasse
Liam Brady Joined: 15 Jan 2012 Location: Boston USA Status: Offline Points: 2015 |
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A lot of looting has been going on for the last couple of hours at the Prudential mall and the Copley mall in Back Bay in Boston. The National Guard have just moved in and secured the area. Can see the news and police choppers all over the downtown and back bay skyline at the moment.
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sid waddell
Roy Keane On a dark desert highway Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12173 |
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Trump, the Republican party, the police and white supremacism are the problem.
Not protesters. Not even looters. It's Trump, the Republican party, the police and white supremacism which are the problem.
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Green Cockade
Liam Brady Joined: 22 Jan 2020 Location: Belfast Status: Offline Points: 2685 |
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I recall the start of what became known as the " Troubles " in NI. I was in my teens and not politically sophisticated but even the young could see at the time that the genie was out of the bottle and would not be going back in. I get a similar sense of that now in the USA, a country that was falling apart anyway even before the latest racist murder by cops. It's going to be a long hot summer. This isn't ending anytime soon.
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Artie Ziff
Ray Houghton Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Status: Offline Points: 3619 |
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No social distancing going on as well, that isn't getting mentioned but when it was those protesting about opening up the economy it was a huge issue. These protests will only help spread the virus even more.
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It would damage this forums' reputation
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