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    Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 11:59am
Irish squad to be named Thursday, hopefully a lot of new players will be brought in for the game and we kickstart a badly needed new era

think the game kicks offs at 19.30 our time ?? Prob on Eir Sport
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I'll give up all hope in progressing under O'Neill if Rice, Browne, Maguire and Hogan don't play at least 45 minutes in this one.
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Originally posted by kevincronin2000 kevincronin2000 wrote:

I'll give up all hope in progressing under O'Neill if Rice, Browne, Maguire and Hogan don't play at least 45 minutes in this one.

I'd go as far to say it's the most important squad selection of the O'Neill era. He's lost a large proportion of the fan base and if there happens to be little to no new faces then those fans will stay lost.
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Will he be naming his 45 man squad or the real squad?


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There will not be a lot of changes.

He will pick the usual players, without Hoolahan and Murphy and a couple of additions like Rice and maybe a couple more.

Ultimately he will be picking the best players available to him.
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John O'Shea, Glenn Whelan and Aiden McGeady haven't seem to have found the sense to retire as of yet.... I hope MON has the balls to make the decision for them
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What the fans want - about 8 new faces with 4 new caps

What the fans will get - about 4 new faces with 2 new caps

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Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

John O'Shea, Glenn Whelan and Aiden McGeady haven't seem to have found the sense to retire as of yet.... I hope MON has the balls to make the decision for them


Basically, the players you don't like?

You could add Long, Walters, Westwood, McShane, Randolph, and Ward to your list while you are at it.

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Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

John O'Shea, Glenn Whelan and Aiden McGeady haven't seem to have found the sense to retire as of yet.... I hope MON has the balls to make the decision for them
It may seem like sense for them to retire,in your opinion, but, despite their limitations, who is better than them, or even potentially better than them, that can be selected?


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ROI section can be as bad the ROTW section at times.

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Tbf to O'Shea, I'm not sure there's a need for him to even announce his retirement. McGeady easily has one, and possibly even two, campaigns left to give; and Whelan may be kept around as back-up.

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Whelan deserves his place in the squad but we will learn absolutely nothing by having him on the pitch in Antalya. John O'Shea on the other hand well I'm not sure if he still can offer anything at this stage of his career and if the rumour of his move to Waterford shortly that should seal his international retirement.
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Originally posted by kevincronin2000 kevincronin2000 wrote:

Whelan deserves his place in the squad but we will learn absolutely nothing by having him on the pitch in Antalya. John O'Shea on the other hand well I'm not sure if he still can offer anything at this stage of his career and if the rumour of his move to Waterford shortly that should seal his international retirement.
Not specifically Whelan, but we will learn even less by throwing a rookie team out there and they will learn even less again.
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I'm not saying a rookie team. Hogan and Maguire 45 mins each, Rice and Browne 45 mins each. That will do nicely. I'm sure there will be withdrawal's from the squad anyway.
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Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

John O'Shea, Glenn Whelan and Aiden McGeady haven't seem to have found the sense to retire as of yet.... I hope MON has the balls to make the decision for them

Being honest, I don't think there is any need for them to retire. Either they should be selected on merit, or left out to prove themselves worthy of a place in the team. Whelan has been out of a high functioning Villa team, while O'Shea and McGeady have been in a dysfunctional Sunderland team. That doesn't speak well for any of them, but that shouldn't mean they have to retire.

Notwithstanding, I would like to see a number of new faces in the friendly matches. Rice has been playing regular PL football, Doherty has been integral to a very good Wolverhampton team, Hogan and Maguire have been scoring in the Championship, Hourihane has been important in Villa's revival. Browne has been very impressive in a strong PNE team, and I would like to see more of him. Equally, as Alan Judge gets stronger, I would like to see him given a chance to impress.

But that doesn't mean that we should toss the spine of the team. I appreciate that Walters, Brady, and McCarthy are injured, but with luck they will return quickly. Randolph is best placed to continue as keeper. Shane Long isn't scoring to the extent we would like, but he has contributed to Southampton's cause in other ways, and perhaps will be able to rediscover his form.

I think this is an important period for the team, and these games should be used to develop the most balanced and capable squad we have.

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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Not specifically Whelan, but we will learn even less by throwing a rookie team out there and they will learn even less again.

Totally agree. The 5-1 defeat to Denmark is not our level. That result is not a reason to toss a wholesale amount of players. We need to incrementally develop new players, within the context of established players.
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Originally posted by kevincronin2000 kevincronin2000 wrote:

I'm not saying a rookie team. Hogan and Maguire 45 mins each, Rice and Browne 45 mins each. That will do nicely. I'm sure there will be withdrawal's from the squad anyway.
I'm not sure that deciding substitutions be for the game begins is helpful either, although regularly done with international friendlies; a large part of what has made them so meaningless. I think we will learn more from players getting a real chance to stake a claim for the future.

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