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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

In some ways it’s actually a pity that Parrott is at Spurs rather than Liverpool or United. 

His record at underage football is comparable (it’s actually better) to Mason Greenwood and Rhian Brewster but those guys are more likely to feature this year as neither team has a striker as good as Kane. 

That was a cracking goal he scored last night. 

As an aside, Gavin Bazunu looks like he might be struggling a little at the moment. Has let in 8 goals in the space of a week. 

I would say that Spurs is the best club for him. It’s arguable that Kane is better than Mane, Salah, or Firminho (I disagree), but Spurs have much fewer options up front than either of those teams. Also, Spurs have a much better record of actually playing their kids.


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What height is Parrott? Would he be hitting 6 foot?
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

What height is Parrott? Would he be hitting 6 foot?

Think he is 5’11 
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Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

In some ways it’s actually a pity that Parrott is at Spurs rather than Liverpool or United. 

His record at underage football is comparable (it’s actually better) to Mason Greenwood and Rhian Brewster but those guys are more likely to feature this year as neither team has a striker as good as Kane. 

That was a cracking goal he scored last night. 

As an aside, Gavin Bazunu looks like he might be struggling a little at the moment. Has let in 8 goals in the space of a week. 

I would say that Spurs is the best club for him. It’s arguable that Kane is better than Mane, Salah, or Firminho (I disagree), but Spurs have much fewer options up front than either of those teams. Also, Spurs have a much better record of actually playing their kids.



I think if Parrott was at United right now he’d have a better chance of playing immediately. 

In the long term I think Spurs might be the best club for him. Poch seems to be very sensible in how he introduces talented young players into the side. 
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That first goal was world class with his weaker foot aswrl . 
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Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

In some ways it’s actually a pity that Parrott is at Spurs rather than Liverpool or United. 

His record at underage football is comparable (it’s actually better) to Mason Greenwood and Rhian Brewster but those guys are more likely to feature this year as neither team has a striker as good as Kane. 

That was a cracking goal he scored last night. 

As an aside, Gavin Bazunu looks like he might be struggling a little at the moment. Has let in 8 goals in the space of a week. 

I would say that Spurs is the best club for him. It’s arguable that Kane is better than Mane, Salah, or Firminho (I disagree), but Spurs have much fewer options up front than either of those teams. Also, Spurs have a much better record of actually playing their kids.


Spurs record of playing their kids isn't better than United at all, let alone much better. 
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Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

In some ways it’s actually a pity that Parrott is at Spurs rather than Liverpool or United. 

His record at underage football is comparable (it’s actually better) to Mason Greenwood and Rhian Brewster but those guys are more likely to feature this year as neither team has a striker as good as Kane. 

That was a cracking goal he scored last night. 

As an aside, Gavin Bazunu looks like he might be struggling a little at the moment. Has let in 8 goals in the space of a week. 

I would say that Spurs is the best club for him. It’s arguable that Kane is better than Mane, Salah, or Firminho (I disagree), but Spurs have much fewer options up front than either of those teams. Also, Spurs have a much better record of actually playing their kids.



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Interesting points here, if poch had decided to play parrot in the last 2 games would parrot then be more likely for a role in the senior team?

If the answer is yes, are we saying that poch (and other club managers) are deciding who is ready for ireland by proxy?

If the answer is no, then micks comments are in conflict with how players are picked.

I appreciate that this a reductionist arguement but it doesn't really clarify how Mick is choosing the team. 

Is he choosing the players on form? Level they are playing, number of caps they have and therefore experience? Are they playing regularly? All of the above?

Doherty is an interesting use case for this too I think, by far our best performer at club level last year (I'd say was better than Coleman in the same position) but not deemed good enough to start for ireland.


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Originally posted by kearney304 kearney304 wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

In some ways it’s actually a pity that Parrott is at Spurs rather than Liverpool or United. 

His record at underage football is comparable (it’s actually better) to Mason Greenwood and Rhian Brewster but those guys are more likely to feature this year as neither team has a striker as good as Kane. 

That was a cracking goal he scored last night. 

As an aside, Gavin Bazunu looks like he might be struggling a little at the moment. Has let in 8 goals in the space of a week. 

I would say that Spurs is the best club for him. It’s arguable that Kane is better than Mane, Salah, or Firminho (I disagree), but Spurs have much fewer options up front than either of those teams. Also, Spurs have a much better record of actually playing their kids.



LOL

3-4 of their starting xi are graduates of the youth system: winks, Walker-Peters, Kane have all started regularly this season.

At Liverpool? 1
Utd? 2-3

If you want to look at ancient history, then that might be a different story 


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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Interesting points here, if poch had decided to play parrot in the last 2 games would parrot then be more likely for a role in the senior team?

If the answer is yes, are we saying that poch (and other club managers) are deciding who is ready for ireland by proxy?

If the answer is no, then micks comments are in conflict with how players are picked.

I appreciate that this a reductionist arguement but it doesn't really clarify how Mick is choosing the team. 

Is he choosing the players on form? Level they are playing, number of caps they have and therefore experience? Are they playing regularly? All of the above?

Doherty is an interesting use case for this too I think, by far our best performer at club level last year (I'd say was better than Coleman in the same position) but not deemed good enough to start for ireland.




Depends on how you look at this.

If Parrott plays in the EPL, then Mick can watch him and see how plays at senior level and then make a call on his inclusion.
The fact that Parrott hasn't played or been selected for Spurs squad says that Poch doesn't think that Parrott is ready for senior football yet and should continue his development by playing u23's.
So if he's not ready for Spurs then he's not ready for senior international football either and should play for the u21's. If he excels at u21 level, then Mick may end up calling him up in the next squad.

It would be very naive for Mick to calling him up and playing him against Switzerland.

Parrott is still a kid really. No doubt we will be seeing him play at senior level in the near future.


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The reason Doherty isn’t picked is because we don’t play wing-backs.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

The reason Doherty isn’t picked is because we don’t play wing-backs.

well you could say that, there is also the fact now that coleman would need to be kidnapped before Doherty would even get a look in. even then i wouldnt be to sure. 
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The reason Doherty isn’t picked is because we don’t play wing-backs.

Then why is Stevens picked?
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Originally posted by valo88 valo88 wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

The reason Doherty isn’t picked is because we don’t play wing-backs.

Then why is Stevens picked?
Stevens is a left-back converted to a left wing-back. Doherty is a left-back converted into a right wing-back.

I think that is a large part of the thinking anyway.
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Doherty is a right back who converted to left back, then a right-wing back. Also played in central  midfield for few games for irish u21s
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Originally posted by PaddyDaCulchie PaddyDaCulchie wrote:

Doherty is a right back who converted to left back, then a right-wing back. Also played in central  midfield for few games for irish u21s
Did he not break through at Wolves at left-back? Either way, his career as taken off in his current position. There may be doubts about him defensively that aren’t there about Coleman.

In saying all that, both should be playing! It isn’t as if we have a huge selection of right-sided midfielders.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by valo88 valo88 wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

The reason Doherty isn’t picked is because we don’t play wing-backs.

Then why is Stevens picked?
Stevens is a left-back converted to a left wing-back. Doherty is a left-back converted into a right wing-back.

I think that is a large part of the thinking anyway.

Why do you persist in this delusion that Doherty is a left back?? He's a right-footed right back who played at left-back for one season to accommodate (the then highly rated) Dominic Iorfa.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by valo88 valo88 wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

The reason Doherty isn’t picked is because we don’t play wing-backs.

Then why is Stevens picked?
Stevens is a left-back converted to a left wing-back. Doherty is a left-back converted into a right wing-back.

I think that is a large part of the thinking anyway.

Why do you persist in this delusion that Doherty is a left back?? He's a right-footed right back who played at left-back for one season to accommodate (the then highly rated) Dominic Iorfa.
He isn’t anymore, but that’s where he established himself at Wolves and wars fairly average whenever I saw him there. His career has taken off since he moved to the right and Wolves started using wing-backs. There’s no delusion at all!! 
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