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    Posted: 25 Nov 2023 at 3:37pm
Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by engpad engpad wrote:

Bazunu 

O'Shea Collins Egan Cirkin 

Cullen Smallbone 

Ogbene McAteer Johnstone 

Ferguson 

Replace McAteer with Moran, Smallbone with Browne maybe and Cirkin with O Shea and O Shea with Omabamidele. 
 

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Originally posted by engpad engpad wrote:

Bazunu 

O'Shea Collins Egan Cirkin 

Cullen Smallbone 

Ogbene McAteer Johnstone 

Ferguson 

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Bazunu 

O'Shea Collins Egan Cirkin 

Cullen Smallbone 

Ogbene McAteer Johnstone 

Ferguson 


Edited by engpad - 25 Nov 2023 at 3:13pm
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Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

Originally posted by Luder Luder wrote:

Why does everyone have keep raving on about Collins? He makes a mistake in almost every game, often leading to goals conceded. Yes he can pass and run with the ball, but that's not his core function. It's like keeping Duffy in the team because he can score the odd goal. It's not worth it.
Collins for me was amongst our most consistent under performers in this campaign. Was beyond brutal at times. 

Would agree. I think since the goal against Ukraine he has been given too much freedom and as others have said, would do better in a structured defence. There is a fine player there if he could cut out the errors.


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Originally posted by Luder Luder wrote:

Why does everyone have keep raving on about Collins? He makes a mistake in almost every game, often leading to goals conceded. Yes he can pass and run with the ball, but that's not his core function. It's like keeping Duffy in the team because he can score the odd goal. It's not worth it.
Collins for me was amongst our most consistent under performers in this campaign. Was beyond brutal at times. 
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He'll also likely be our captain by the time he's 25.
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Originally posted by Luder Luder wrote:

Why does everyone have keep raving on about Collins? He makes a mistake in almost every game, often leading to goals conceded. Yes he can pass and run with the ball, but that's not his core function. It's like keeping Duffy in the team because he can score the odd goal. It's not worth it.

He is performing well in the Premier League in the Brentford system the past month. One of their better performers. He has been a bit rash into some of his decision making but he still young. He is technically the best defender we have.
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Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Wonder did Doherty get the captaincy because of this public shows of affection for SK? Can't think of any other reason, not really captain material is he.


Only reason he got it is because he's the oldest player in the squad that was playing. Would be one of the last players I'd make captain.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Wasn't that Smallbones role?

Not doubting Moran's potential, it's just that the expectations on his shoulders is probably unrealistic, just like when Smallbone wasn't in the team. 



Folk probably hoped that Smallbone would be that link between midfield and forwards but I don't rate him much as a no.10.

His best game in an Ireland shirt was playing as a box to box midfielder for the U21s. Looking at his assists for Szmodics and there's no one on our team that can pick out a pass like Moran did in their last game.

That's an issue we've seen with the young lads coming through with too much expectations being put on them. But it's one of those things lads will have to just get on with.

We've a young team and no older players worth talking about who'll put their hand up and lead by example. Ogbene is probably the only one I'd say whereas someone like Scotland have a handful of lads around the age of 28 who fit this mold.
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Wonder did Doherty get the captaincy because of this public shows of affection for SK? Can't think of any other reason, not really captain material is he.
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Wasn't that Smallbones role?

Not doubting Moran's potential, it's just that the expectations on his shoulders is probably unrealistic, just like when Smallbone wasn't in the team. 


Edited by horsebox - 23 Nov 2023 at 1:23pm
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

How is Moran in our best 11?

He's played less than 20 senior games.

Omobamidele has done very little too. Manning hasn't been great at all.
Smallbone hasn't set the world alright either.


For me Moran is in there because we need a midfielder like him. Someone that's gonna play forward passes and able to link up with Ferguson.

Can't have three workhorses in midfield and then wonder why Ferguson is underperforming when we've no one that can provide him with service. New manager
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Why does everyone have keep raving on about Collins? He makes a mistake in almost every game, often leading to goals conceded. Yes he can pass and run with the ball, but that's not his core function. It's like keeping Duffy in the team because he can score the odd goal. It's not worth it.
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                                     Bazunu/Kelleher

Ebosele           O'Shea         Collins            Egan              Manning
    
                              Merann         Cullen
                                     
                                      Szmodics

Ogbene                                               Ferguson
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A bleak state of affairs when Doherty is being included in a best eleven. The fella should be bombed from the squad as quickly as possible. An atrocious attitude.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

How is Moran in our best 11?

He's played less than 20 senior games.

Omobamidele has done very little too. Manning hasn't been great at all.
Smallbone hasn't set the world alright either.

The usual getting carried away on here 
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How is Moran in our best 11?

He's played less than 20 senior games.

Omobamidele has done very little too. Manning hasn't been great at all.
Smallbone hasn't set the world alright either.
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'd cull Young Doherty.  Been attrocious so he has.
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