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    Posted: 21 Nov 2023 at 8:54am
MON will get the boot after the next qualifying campaign, or possibly during it. Every dog has its day, and NI have had theirs. We have better players than they have, with worse results, we know why.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

No matter what way you look at it, NI still won against a very good Denmark said, that win will instill some hope, belief and confidence in the team going forward.

We are absolutely rock bottom and no position to be mocking our neighbours. 

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No matter what way you look at it, NI still won against a very good Denmark said, that win will instill some hope, belief and confidence in the team going forward.

We are absolutely rock bottom and no position to be mocking our neighbours. 
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Most important position of manager would be a win for O’Neill over us, never mind player comparisons.
We have finished 5th out of 5 host nations for euro 28 now and end of this campaign. Not sure if will have any bearing on the 3 automatic host qualification spots. 
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Bottom line is our still and hopefully soon to be redundant manager is not as good as the North's manager.

I thought they'd do better in this campaign but a good few mistakes done them more rather than MON being tactically clueless. 
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Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

They have been utterly abysmal, a flukey win against an already qualified, second string side is meaningless. Except to say that even their dismal showing surpasses our own.

I’d say the VAR decision that ruled out Marshall’s goal in Copenhagen was the tightest VAR decision I have seen. They’ve been dreadful this campaign, and this result doesn’t change that, but there is no point in looking at this through the prism of their 4-0 defeat to Finland.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Shermanator1 Shermanator1 wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

I see people on here are praising an LOI manager. I thought they couldn't cut it at international level 

Michael O’Neill has something of a pedigree at international level. It just isn’t working out the same way this time.

Michael O'Neill did a phenomenal job the first time around with a very limited squad by taking a pragmatic and disciplined approach in maximizing his team's strengths.  I would not bet against him having similar success in the future.

It’s why I think he’d be a good fit in the immediate term for us.

I agree. I called for him to be brought in to replace the floundering Kenny long before the North brought him back for a second go round.  He has a proven track record of success by bringing the North to the final 16 in Euro 2016, as well as coming within a highly questionable penalty call against the Swiss of qualifying for the World Cup in 2018. 
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They have been utterly abysmal, a flukey win against an already qualified, second string side is meaningless. Except to say that even their dismal showing surpasses our own.
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Originally posted by Shermanator1 Shermanator1 wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

I see people on here are praising an LOI manager. I thought they couldn't cut it at international level 

Michael O’Neill has something of a pedigree at international level. It just isn’t working out the same way this time.

Michael O'Neill did a phenomenal job the first time around with a very limited squad by taking a pragmatic and disciplined approach in maximizing his team's strengths.  I would not bet against him having similar success in the future.

It’s why I think he’d be a good fit in the immediate term for us.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

I see people on here are praising an LOI manager. I thought they couldn't cut it at international level 

Michael O’Neill has something of a pedigree at international level. It just isn’t working out the same way this time.

Michael O'Neill did a phenomenal job the first time around with a very limited squad by taking a pragmatic and disciplined approach in maximizing his team's strengths.  I would not bet against him having similar success in the future.
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

I see people on here are praising an LOI manager. I thought they couldn't cut it at international level 

Michael O’Neill has something of a pedigree at international level. It just isn’t working out the same way this time.
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

I see people on here are praising an LOI manager. I thought they couldn't cut it at international level 
I'd say its more a comparison to Kenny than praise.
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I see people on here are praising an LOI manager. I thought they couldn't cut it at international level 
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

It’s not about getting a result in a dead rubber or Denmark resting main players 

The thread was set up to belittle the north’s squad, which on paper is pretty sh*t. As I said last week on the thread we’d struggle to beat them when people were naming how few of theirs would make our squad 

We’re a farce and have no place to be mocking any other teams to be honest 
100%. Lads on here mocking Scotland a few weeks back.
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

It’s not about getting a result in a dead rubber or Denmark resting main players 

The thread was set up to belittle the north’s squad, which on paper is pretty sh*t. As I said last week on the thread we’d struggle to beat them when people were naming how few of theirs would make our squad 

We’re a farce and have no place to be mocking any other teams to be honest 

And you’re not wrong. We’re becoming more and more like that spoofer who is forever developing the next big app, which never sees the light of day. We’re forced to project into the future to get any joy from the present.
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Football isn’t played on paper

Passion, being well set up and hard to score against comes into it 
We have none of that. Which is why we can only beat minnows 

Exacty. They rode their luck in the first half but MON can still pull off a result. 

Hope the FAI don't fook about in getting shot of Kenny after the NZ match. 

NI beating an already qualified, under strength Denmark is "getting a result". I seem to remember whenever we did well in games where we were out of the qualification race, it was written off as being meaningless. NI rode their luck big time tonight - they had two shots on target and both resulted in goals. Ultimately, they still finished 5th in a group where the 2nd seed was weaker than our 4th seed. Michael O'Neill had a very productive first spell with NI, but he tanked at Stoke and now he's tanking in his 2nd bout with NI.

Probably because we beat teams like Luxembourg and Azerbaijan. 

MON has got a better scalp (albeit against an already qualified side) than anything Kenny has ever done. 


 



And those wins were pivotal in retaining support for Kenny. In fact, it probably washed away the massive blot of one point and one goal from the two home games against those teams.
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It’s not about getting a result in a dead rubber or Denmark resting main players 

The thread was set up to belittle the north’s squad, which on paper is pretty sh*t. As I said last week on the thread we’d struggle to beat them when people were naming how few of theirs would make our squad 

We’re a farce and have no place to be mocking any other teams to be honest 
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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

This will cause an existential crisis for some in this parish, tonight. Thinking ahead to Euro 2028, coming fifth out of five hosts could potentially (depending on how host qualifiers work) see us miss out entirely, even with the possibility of a final backstop of some sort of play-off between host nations.


Gonna be some craic if we don't qualify for Euro '28 and NI are the ones playing all their group games in Dublin.

Well considering the NI fans have been singing you can shove Casement Park up yer hole that may not be as far fetched as it sounds 
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