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    Posted: 17 Nov 2021 at 12:50pm
Originally posted by Deco79 Deco79 wrote:

Looking at Austria and the Czech Republic getting World Cup Playoff spots shows how important The Nations League is going forward 

Definitely, although they will be up against it as unseeded teams. For the Euros it gives a great backup to almost everyone in Leagues A and B
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Looking at Austria and the Czech Republic getting World Cup Playoff spots shows how important The Nations League is going forward 
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Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

It's an awful pity they don't have equivalent semi finals and finals for the lower leagues to be honest. 

Absolutely. Hopefully will be introduced in the future. 
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It's an awful pity they don't have equivalent semi finals and finals for the lower leagues to be honest. 
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Wouldn't Armenia be the weakest from Pot 4? Got thrashed at home by Macedonia a few days ago.

Travel wise for me; Iceland from Pot 1, anyone but Scotland from Pot 2 and no Pot 3 standouts.
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From a football perspective, Iceland, Finland and probably Albania would be the ideal draw here. Nightmare would probably be Ukraine, Norway and Armenia. Ukraine and Russia can't draw one another so can't get the two of them in the one group thankfully.

From a travel perspective there is no real standout team you'd want. They all either seem a) expensive, b) awkward to get to or c) small stadiums. Then you've got Scotland which would be too accessible and you'd end up bringing thousands of fans over with no chance of a ticket. I'd probably go for Sweden, Finland and Slovenia but I'm only hoping to get to one of the games in June. Would love to see Sarajevo but you could end up playing out in Zenica.


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Yes Iceland P1 and Finland P2 are the best choices. Albania or Slovenia from P4. 

Travel wise, I can only go to the September away game and wife has given me green light. So crossing fingers we get a draw and the September away falls kindly (e.g. would be a killer if we get Scotland and that is the away match where there is no hope in getting ticket).
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Iceland the team to get from Pot 1. Seem to be on the downturn.  Finland from Pot 2 (Norway, Scotland and Russia are the others from this pot ). Slovenia from Pot 4 
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

It's a killer having no available fixtures pencilled in to start to look forward to.
Going to be a long month until this draw comes around


I hate this time of year! No Internationals for 4+ months, LOI wrapped up next week, Cup final week after.

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It's a killer having no available fixtures pencilled in to start to look forward to.
Going to be a long month until this draw comes around
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2 wins from the 6 games should be enough. Some very average teams in league B and some of the better ones will be licking their wounds when June games come around after failing to qualify the Qatar. With a change of manage they’ll be regrouping so we should be ahead of the curve in that perspective. Serbia are the stand out team for me and we can’t draw them. We should be looking to win the group. It will be interesting to see how many of league B get to the World Cup.
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There is 16 teams in League A and 16 teams in League B. 20 teams will qualify directly for Euro 2024 via the traditional qualifying campaign. There is a high probability that these teams will be in League A and B. That leaves 12 unqualified teams in League A and B. League A and B both have 4 playoff berths. Therefore Ireland would likely get a playoff if they finished 3rd in their Nations League B group as only 4 teams from League A and B are guaranteed to miss out on a playoff spot. A 2nd place finish would all but guarantee a playoff spot.
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Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

Originally posted by greenshoots greenshoots wrote:

so to qualify for the next Euros, where do we have to finish in our Nations League group?

Took this from Dale Johnson on twitter


Format for Euro 2024 qualifying is not yet confirmed, including any details of how teams might earn playoff spots via the Nations League. It's likely UEFA will want playoff paths via this route, though the same method as 2020 cannot be used as Germany take an auto slot as hosts

League D is a much smaller division than last time, just total minnows now, so that place will be removed and given to Germany as hosts. So there will still be three qualification places available through the playoffs, we will need top 2 in our Nations League group to guarantee a playoff place, we might sneak in with a third place finish, fourth unlikely to be any use to us.
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Not too many Qatar qualifiers in that list - Sweden, Norway, Russia and Scotland still have a chance but cant see more than 2 qualifying.
Whoever we get they should be good competitive fixtures.
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Originally posted by VanBosch VanBosch wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

Final pots


Ireland are Pot 3 in League B and will draw one from each of these. Ukraine Sweden Bosnia and Herzegovina Iceland Finland Norway Scotland Russia Slovenia Montenegro Albania Armenia

These were final months ago though based on finishing positions in the NL - apart from the winners which only impacts group A?

Worst
Sweden
Norway
Albania

Best
Iceland
Finland
Armenia

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The draw for this takes place Dec 16th
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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

[QUOTE=Roberto_Carlow]Final pots


Ireland are Pot 3 in League B and will draw one from each of these. Ukraine Sweden Bosnia and Herzegovina Iceland Finland Norway Scotland Russia Slovenia Montenegro Albania Armenia
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A nice situation in that we can get another 6 games to bed down what we are doing further blood new young players standing out. we will be playing decent teams even if we don't top the Group as such it will bring us on with a view to March 2023 which has to be the big target. 
Those teams are decent but are teams we can be competitive against and will be 2nd 3rd and 4th seeds in any potential qualifying Goup so if we can be competitive against them it will bode well for that. 

Even if we finish 3rd it should also give us a play off at least if we don't qualify through the groups. 

From a purely footballing perspective - I'd like

A - Bosnia or Iceland
B - Finland or Norway
D- Any except Albania

Would like to avoid Sweden/Ukraine and Russia/Scotland - None of them are worldbeaters but they are probably a step ahead of where we are at currently. Ideal group for me would be Iceland, FInland, Montenegro
 

Of course but then again playing a Sweden/Ukraine or our Celtic neighbours will be positive in its own way. Opposition a step ahead of us so to speak allows us to test ourselves. If we can be competitive against that sort of opposition 2nd/3rd seeds it will bode well for us with a view to bring competitive in the qualifying group. 

Pluses and minuses to both I guess, I just feel with a young team, it would be nice to get a few results and not finish bottom of the group. A group with for example Sweden, Scotland and Albania would be difficult and as we have seen. a lot of Kenny's critics don't seems to care about performances or the quality of opposition.
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

[QUOTE=Roberto_Carlow]Final pots


Ireland are Pot 3 in League B and will draw one from each of these. Ukraine Sweden Bosnia and Herzegovina Iceland Finland Norway Scotland Russia Slovenia Montenegro Albania Armenia
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A nice situation in that we can get another 6 games to bed down what we are doing further blood new young players standing out. we will be playing decent teams even if we don't top the Group as such it will bring us on with a view to March 2023 which has to be the big target. 
Those teams are decent but are teams we can be competitive against and will be 2nd 3rd and 4th seeds in any potential qualifying Goup so if we can be competitive against them it will bode well for that. 

Even if we finish 3rd it should also give us a play off at least if we don't qualify through the groups. 

From a purely footballing perspective - I'd like

A - Bosnia or Iceland
B - Finland or Norway
D- Any except Albania

Would like to avoid Sweden/Ukraine and Russia/Scotland - None of them are worldbeaters but they are probably a step ahead of where we are at currently. Ideal group for me would be Iceland, FInland, Montenegro
 

Of course but then again playing a Sweden/Ukraine or our Celtic neighbours will be positive in its own way. Opposition a step ahead of us so to speak allows us to test ourselves. If we can be competitive against that sort of opposition 2nd/3rd seeds it will bode well for us with a view to bring competitive in the qualifying group. 
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