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    Posted: 23 Oct 2023 at 4:31pm
Played the full 90 at the weekend in a 1-0 win over rivals Liege which put his team Zulte Waregem top of the Belgian 2nd tier!
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Starts for Zulte Waregem today at LB, they are leading 2-0 at ht, a result that will see them up to 2nd place in Belgiums 2nd tier.
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Originally posted by SC92 SC92 wrote:

He's definitely pretty tall for a fullback but admittedly gangly also. 

Games are the necessity for him and isn't going to get that not making Cardiffs matchday squads unless it's a cup game. Suprised Cardiff didn't go the L1/L2 route but this team are newly relegated so should be relatively strong and pushing for promotion. 

Agreed, he just needs games at this stage. Belgium II is a decent league technically and did O'Brien no harm last season. It wont put him on the radar for the senior team, but a good loan and a return to regular Chship football next season and he can still win caps in the future.
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He's definitely pretty tall for a fullback but admittedly gangly also. 

Games are the necessity for him and isn't going to get that not making Cardiffs matchday squads unless it's a cup game. Suprised Cardiff didn't go the L1/L2 route but this team are newly relegated so should be relatively strong and pushing for promotion. 
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by SeaSharp SeaSharp wrote:

Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Better than twiddling his thumbs not making match day squads at Cardiff. If he impresses might get him some interest from teams in the top tier or other leagues on the continent. Going forward he's decent and gets into great positions but defensively he's weak. Wouldn't be trusting him in a back four.
I think I might have said it before in this thread, but my main concern would be that he's extremely lightweight. To be as slender as he is you need to be exceptional to make it at the top level. Doesn't seem to have the blistering pace you may associate with slighter players either.

He's over 6'0, the slight frame is likely down to age and is hardly something that can't be addressed.
Is he? He didn't look that tall when I saw him at Ashton Gate last season. Maybe it was just the angle I had. He is nearly 22 now so you'd expect to see him bulking out soon enough. Have to remember that it's partially down to genetics too
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Originally posted by SeaSharp SeaSharp wrote:

Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Better than twiddling his thumbs not making match day squads at Cardiff. If he impresses might get him some interest from teams in the top tier or other leagues on the continent. Going forward he's decent and gets into great positions but defensively he's weak. Wouldn't be trusting him in a back four.
I think I might have said it before in this thread, but my main concern would be that he's extremely lightweight. To be as slender as he is you need to be exceptional to make it at the top level. Doesn't seem to have the blistering pace you may associate with slighter players either.

He's over 6'0, the slight frame is likely down to age and is hardly something that can't be addressed.
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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Better than twiddling his thumbs not making match day squads at Cardiff. If he impresses might get him some interest from teams in the top tier or other leagues on the continent. Going forward he's decent and gets into great positions but defensively he's weak. Wouldn't be trusting him in a back four.
I think I might have said it before in this thread, but my main concern would be that he's extremely lightweight. To be as slender as he is you need to be exceptional to make it at the top level. Doesn't seem to have the blistering pace you may associate with slighter players either.
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Better than twiddling his thumbs not making match day squads at Cardiff. If he impresses might get him some interest from teams in the top tier or other leagues on the continent. Going forward he's decent and gets into great positions but defensively he's weak. Wouldn't be trusting him in a back four.
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Belgian second division, not a great standard albeit they should be one of the strongest teams in that league.
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He was getting regular games under Steve Morrison.

Hudson and Lamouchi haven't used him.


Going forward he gets into good positions but defensively he's weak. Not what you want when fighting relegation. Hopefully gets himself a loan cause if Jamilu Collins is fit he'll be warming the bench.

Handing out a new three year deal to a player who only featured 4 times last season would suggest that they have high hopes for him.

Bulut might take a liking to him.

He scored 3 goals in as many games back in early 2022. I would have considered him for a senior cap back then.
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He has been inconsistent since he made the breakthrough under Mick McCarthy. Might have been a flash in the pan, we’ll see. I think his younger brother Sam is still at QPR.
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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by Banana_RepublicFC Banana_RepublicFC wrote:

He was getting regular games under Steve Morrison.

Hudson and Lamouchi haven't used him.


Going forward he gets into good positions but defensively he's weak. Not what you want when fighting relegation. Hopefully gets himself a loan cause if Jamilu Collins is fit he'll be warming the bench.
I would worry about him physically too. He's pretty light weight and doesn't look like he has blistering pace to compensate.
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Originally posted by Banana_RepublicFC Banana_RepublicFC wrote:

He was getting regular games under Steve Morrison.

Hudson and Lamouchi haven't used him.


Going forward he gets into good positions but defensively he's weak. Not what you want when fighting relegation. Hopefully gets himself a loan cause if Jamilu Collins is fit he'll be warming the bench.
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One can only assume he was given some assurances. At 22 now, he cant afford another season on the sidelines. Mc Clean is 34, O'Dowda (who he has a chance to compete with at club level) has never convinced defensively while Manning is out of favour. There is definitely a chink of light if he can get himself regular game time at Championship level over the next year.
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He was getting regular games under Steve Morrison.

Hudson and Lamouchi haven't used him.
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The manager is basically questioning his attitude and work ethic in training there. But the manager/club still have belief in him to offer him a three year deal. Hopefully he gets playing more  regular this season.

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He did get injured in the one game he started in the league but the manager gave this interview back in December.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-player-told-he-25823979?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

"I really like Joel. He needs to push harder. He needs to want to take his opportunity," Hudson said of the left-back.

"People can say, 'Well he has not had his opportunity.' But it's every day. I've seen players take their opportunity in training and showcase it day in, day out. He needs to demand more from himself. We are trying to get that from him but it needs to come more from within.

"There are opportunities for everyone to come and showcase what they've got. You've seen selection, everyone has pretty much had an opportunity to take it, not just on the pitch, but down there on the training ground as well."

"It's difficult when you've got players in front of you. Callum O'Dowda has played there. We thought that would work with the attacking option at home.

"I'm not saying Joel won't feature, I think Joel needs to push on a bit more. I'm not saying anything to you that I've not said to Joel. 'How much do you want it?'

"When someone would maybe knock on my door and say, 'Look, I really want to get my opportunity and I'm doing it every day', then they'll get it. There needs to be a demand from within."

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