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    Posted: 01 Oct 2022 at 2:38pm
Tyreik Wright scores to put Bradford 2-1 up away - Thought he got a lot of stick, when it was Crawford's fault for playing him at LWB, pleased he's bounced back quickly. Could still have a future in the senior set up/
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Of the current squad, Conor Coventry, Lee O’Connor, Brian Maher, Aaron Connolly, Andy Lyons, Eiran Cashin, Jake O’Brien, Joe Redmond, Dawson Devoy, David Odumosu, Will Smallbone, Ross Tierney, Joshua Kayode, Tyreik Wright, Finn Azaz and Adam O’Reilly are all ineligible to play in the next U21s campaign.

This is in addition to Gavin Kilkenny, Oisin McEntee, Mark McGuinness, Luke McNicholas, Colm Whelan, Liam Kerrigan, Conor Noss, Joel Bagan, Will Ferry and David Harrington who have all been key members of the squad throughout the campaign.
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Crawford praises class of 2022 U21 internationals | Football Association of Ireland (fai.ie)

Sounds like from this that he'll be staying on !!!

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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by 10 Box 10 Box wrote:

Whatever your opinion on Crawford is he has found a good one in Finn Azaz - was really impressed with him the other night. I'm a Ross Tierney fan but Azaz was a major upgrade when he came on. Two good feet, composed, strong & always picked the right pass..a proper no. 10. Would call him straight up in November to see how he goes as gives us something different especially with Connor Ronan not playing any first team football.


Looks a baller and someone that could fit that role of being the third midfielder who could link up with the front two. Hopefully Kenny finds room for both Azaz and Smallbone in November.

We need to get a look at some new faces that could maybe add something to the squad. Could maybe see Coventry training just for the fact we don't have someone to step in when Cullen is out. He'll need to leave West Ham though.

I think it's probably important that we go with close to a full strength team vs Norway with maybe Smallbone in there as the 3rd midfielder, I'd also like to see him try somebody other than Parrott with Obafemi in that game, maybe Ogbene (still havent heard anything re a knock so I'd imagine he's very disappointed). 

I'd be happy to see Coventry, Connolly and Azaz get minutes vs Malta, maybe Ebosele too, but Coventry will have to get a decent loan in January if he wants to make the March squad and Connolly and Ebosele will need to be getting substantial minutes (and a few goals in Connolly's case) in Italy.
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Originally posted by 10 Box 10 Box wrote:

Whatever your opinion on Crawford is he has found a good one in Finn Azaz - was really impressed with him the other night. I'm a Ross Tierney fan but Azaz was a major upgrade when he came on. Two good feet, composed, strong & always picked the right pass..a proper no. 10. Would call him straight up in November to see how he goes as gives us something different especially with Connor Ronan not playing any first team football.


Looks a baller and someone that could fit that role of being the third midfielder who could link up with the front two. Hopefully Kenny finds room for both Azaz and Smallbone in November.

We need to get a look at some new faces that could maybe add something to the squad. Could maybe see Coventry training just for the fact we don't have someone to step in when Cullen is out. He'll need to leave West Ham though.
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by 10 Box 10 Box wrote:

Whatever your opinion on Crawford is he has found a good one in Finn Azaz - was really impressed with him the other night. I'm a Ross Tierney fan but Azaz was a major upgrade when he came on. Two good feet, composed, strong & always picked the right pass..a proper no. 10. Would call him straight up in November to see how he goes as gives us something different especially with Connor Ronan not playing any first team football.

Thought he was excellent also, but I'd caution against judging a player on a 25 minute cameo (plus 30 in et where he faded a bit, but so did the team and Smallbone/Connolly who he had linked well with had both gone off) who came on vs a tiring Israel side. Thats not to say he doesnt look an exciting prospect, but I'd imagine a little bit more homework might be required, he's still playing L1 football.

In any case, looks like a lad with potential, but I'd still have Smallbone ahead of him as regards elevation to the seniors, probably no harm to promote both for November however. Those two and Connolly look like the only ones worth promoting tbh. 

Coventry is a maybe for me, but unfortunately he is unlikely to play enough football between now and then, no harm having a look I suppose vs Malta- I'm not convinced he's ready yet - hasnt really done anything of note above L1 level, things didnt work out for him at Peterboeo in the Chship. Needs a good Chship loan in January imo to really work his way in to the seniors. We undoubtedly need cover for Cullen, so he has every chance in that regard.
Get your points alright but would still call him up for look see..sure what's the harm as no 21's games left. No issue with him playing L1 as half the squad were playing there last season - his composure on the ball what stood out most for me & we still have major issues in the final third. Agree - would be calling up Smallbone also.
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Originally posted by 10 Box 10 Box wrote:

Whatever your opinion on Crawford is he has found a good one in Finn Azaz - was really impressed with him the other night. I'm a Ross Tierney fan but Azaz was a major upgrade when he came on. Two good feet, composed, strong & always picked the right pass..a proper no. 10. Would call him straight up in November to see how he goes as gives us something different especially with Connor Ronan not playing any first team football.

Thought he was excellent also, but I'd caution against judging a player on a 25 minute cameo (plus 30 in et where he faded a bit, but so did the team and Smallbone/Connolly who he had linked well with had both gone off) who came on vs a tiring Israel side. Thats not to say he doesnt look an exciting prospect, but I'd imagine a little bit more homework might be required, he's still playing L1 football.

In any case, looks like a lad with potential, but I'd still have Smallbone ahead of him as regards elevation to the seniors, probably no harm to promote both for November however. Those two and Connolly look like the only ones worth promoting tbh. 

Coventry is a maybe for me, but unfortunately he is unlikely to play enough football between now and then, no harm having a look I suppose vs Malta- I'm not convinced he's ready yet - hasnt really done anything of note above L1 level, things didnt work out for him at Peterboeo in the Chship. Needs a good Chship loan in January imo to really work his way in to the seniors. We undoubtedly need cover for Cullen, so he has every chance in that regard.
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Whatever your opinion on Crawford is he has found a good one in Finn Azaz - was really impressed with him the other night. I'm a Ross Tierney fan but Azaz was a major upgrade when he came on. Two good feet, composed, strong & always picked the right pass..a proper no. 10. Would call him straight up in November to see how he goes as gives us something different especially with Connor Ronan not playing any first team football.
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We've been pitifully unsuccessful at this level so JC deserves credit for getting us this close to the finals tournament. Nobody else, including Kenny, managed that. Hanging on at 0-0 was the best chance we had to qualify after failing to win in Dublin so give him credit for managing that. Even if we did have to play MONball to do it. I'd rather lose for the seniors now than go back to playing turgid hoofball but just on that one occasion the result maybe more important than the performance.
The penalties didn't go our way but there's a huge element of luck in shootouts.
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It's ironic that the most successful Under 21 manager that we ever had who has had 1 campaign and two games in the other campaign is wanted out but Stephen Kenny our most unsuccessful senior manager ever you'd want to keep. 

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Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by Greenie50 Greenie50 wrote:

So with that campaign done, almost the entire squad ages out.

Players that can stay on:

-GK-
Keeley

-DF-
Ebosele, Roughan, Adaramola, Garcia MacNulty,

-MF-
Hodge, Phillips

-FWD-
Odubeko, Ferguson, O'Neill, Costelloe, Burns, Sinclair Armstrong



Near total rebuild for the next campaign.

Surely there's going to be a couple of friendlies organised for November? Would be a major missed opportunity if not, particularly if there's to be a new manager (hopefully there is).
That would be 6 months without games (September to March).

I'm not sure Festy will take the call for the next U21s tbh particularly if Crawford is manager. Given he had issues already, his lack of game time over the last week cant have pleased him. I know there's a rebuild required, but you just listed 13/14 players most with decent experience/ability for that level. I wouldnt worry too much, looks to me like we'll be competitive again at least. Forward options are very strong imo.

Okoflex should also come in.

I'd be quite excited for the next campaign but if we stick with JC, then less so as he's shown to be a negative/conservative coach.
Would rather we get Mohan up, or someone new altogether, who will get the players to express themselves as we have a lot of exciting attacking talent in this age-group.


For sure. I was just listing the few from this campaign that can carry over.

There's plenty talent in the 02/03 still to come in, & a few 04 lads, maybe even a couple of 05 lads (Ferizaj definitely).
But we need a progressive coach who will pick the most talented players & get them playing good football.
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Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

A lot of anger towards Crawford. Was he the manager for the whole campaign? 
Yep, and the last couple of games in the previous campaign.

We rode a lot of luck to get that playoff spot and then we tossed it away with a lack of conviction in Dublin and a lack of ambition in Tel Aviv.



Fully agree and I actually think he had the players to go out and play attractive aggressive attacking football, but he never really let them off the leash, particularly in the 2 play off games. I'd imagine those lads are regretting not just having a go at the Israelis, who were decent but very beatable. I feel Crawford really underestimated our own ability relative to Israel. Disappointing end to the campaign, but not overly surprising that it happened in the manner it did.
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

A lot of anger towards Crawford. Was he the manager for the whole campaign? 
Yep, and the last couple of games in the previous campaign.

We rode a lot of luck to get that playoff spot and then we tossed it away with a lack of conviction in Dublin and a lack of ambition in Tel Aviv.


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A lot of anger towards Crawford. Was he the manager for the whole campaign? 
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by Greenie50 Greenie50 wrote:

So with that campaign done, almost the entire squad ages out.

Players that can stay on:

-GK-
Keeley

-DF-
Ebosele, Roughan, Adaramola, Garcia MacNulty,

-MF-
Hodge, Phillips

-FWD-
Odubeko, Ferguson, O'Neill, Costelloe, Burns, Sinclair Armstrong



Near total rebuild for the next campaign.

Surely there's going to be a couple of friendlies organised for November? Would be a major missed opportunity if not, particularly if there's to be a new manager (hopefully there is).
That would be 6 months without games (September to March).

I'm not sure Festy will take the call for the next U21s tbh particularly if Crawford is manager. Given he had issues already, his lack of game time over the last week cant have pleased him. I know there's a rebuild required, but you just listed 13/14 players most with decent experience/ability for that level. I wouldnt worry too much, looks to me like we'll be competitive again at least. Forward options are very strong imo.

Okoflex should also come in.

I'd be quite excited for the next campaign but if we stick with JC, then less so as he's shown to be a negative/conservative coach.
Would rather we get Mohan up, or someone new altogether, who will get the players to express themselves as we have a lot of exciting attacking talent in this age-group.
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Originally posted by Greenie50 Greenie50 wrote:

So with that campaign done, almost the entire squad ages out.

Players that can stay on:

-GK-
Keeley

-DF-
Ebosele, Roughan, Adaramola, Garcia MacNulty,

-MF-
Hodge, Phillips

-FWD-
Odubeko, Ferguson, O'Neill, Costelloe, Burns, Sinclair Armstrong



Near total rebuild for the next campaign.

Surely there's going to be a couple of friendlies organised for November? Would be a major missed opportunity if not, particularly if there's to be a new manager (hopefully there is).
That would be 6 months without games (September to March).

I'm not sure Festy will take the call for the next U21s tbh particularly if Crawford is manager. Given he had issues already, his lack of game time over the last week cant have pleased him. I know there's a rebuild required, but you just listed 13/14 players most with decent experience/ability for that level. I wouldnt worry too much, looks to me like we'll be competitive again at least. Forward options are very strong imo.
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