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    Posted: 06 Jun 2023 at 5:47pm
the only thing wrong with the format is 3 teams going through from a group of 4 imo. the spread of games around the country and plenty to choose from has been great imo even if the quality hasn't been very good. like in terms of attendance, why should I drive from Belfast to Ballybofey to watch us lose to Derry when we're already through to the next round because we've beaten Clare? Call it fair weather if you want but it's a big cost for a game that means nothing in the grand scheme. 

there's bigger questions about the direction the game is going in and potential rule changes to bring back those 50/50 contests around the pitch that many people miss but if the GAA can be trusted to do one thing, it's to pick the wrong f**king rules to change or introduce 


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It will linen up of course but it has to be 2 out of the group. Only 1 team eliminated takes away excitement. 

Imagine the Munster hurling where 4 team's qualified. The fact a big team (this year cork) is guaranteed to exit despite playing well brings a knockout feel to every game. 

As for the provincials they're going to remain sh*te as long as Kerry and Dublin win them every year. 
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

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You couldn't have lads training 4/5 times a week for 6+ months and only getting one game. 

Argument for me is that there is the league, and the likes of the O'Byrne cup. I accept that the Championship sits at a higher level, but that was no reason to expand it. Getting a second game hardly makes it any more worthwhile.

The League was better than this All Ireland series, so far. 

It'll no doubt liven up in the coming weeks and teams will start getting knocked out on a weekly basis soon
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Advocates for the new system are arguing that in the likes of the Superbowl or the Premier league, or the Champions League that you play a lot of games, some are foregone conclusions or mundane, in order to arrive at the winner. 
They don't play 3 or 4 games a year in their biggest competitions and once they lose they're out. 

Personally i've been disappointed in this season so far. Memorable games have been at a premium. Is this what the likes of Joe Brolly argued for for years? I agree with a two tiered system but think there is a better format than four groups of four with only one team exiting after the group stage. 

The football itself is pretty boring too


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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

You couldn't have lads training 4/5 times a week for 6+ months and only getting one game. 

Argument for me is that there is the league, and the likes of the O'Byrne cup. I accept that the Championship sits at a higher level, but that was no reason to expand it. Getting a second game hardly makes it any more worthwhile.
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The Provincials didnt matter because anybody decent was already assured of their spot in these groups, and in some cases (Mayo) it was beneficial to lose as quickly as possible.

These groups dont matter either because you beat the worst team in your group and you are through. All these games just to eliminate 4 teams is a piss take. Every team playing 3 games just to eliminate the likes of Louth and Clare. Complete waste of time.

Get rid of the provisional QF, have only 1st and 2nd qualify for a QF. They are so worried about having 1 dead rubber game in a group that they have set it up so every game is a pointless waste of time.


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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

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It needed to change. The reason it's changing so much is that the GAA is a conservative organisation so you'll never get something through in one go that would actually fix this. 

Funny, I always struggled to agree with the armchair rationale that brought in the 'back-door' system in 2001 i.e. the unfairness of an exit after one defeat. The club and county debate is guiding it too, hence the changes in the timings for finals etc.

I'm open to certain rule changes, but again, they seem always to be overly broad.
You couldn't have lads training 4/5 times a week for 6+ months and only getting one game. 
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

It is a funny one, why they look to make so many changes all the time to the sport itself and/or formats.
One bad possession game and they want to start changing rules like time clock or no pass back to keeper.
But how many dire soccer games have we watched? You get the odd bad game



Agree with that. I think around 2011 there was perhaps an air that weaker teams might start playing total football like the great Tyrone teams of the 2000's, but merge it with the hyper defence of Donegal, and perhaps go a little further in putting men behind the ball. The AI Semi between Dublin and Donegal probably sticks out.
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:


It needed to change. The reason it's changing so much is that the GAA is a conservative organisation so you'll never get something through in one go that would actually fix this. 

Funny, I always struggled to agree with the armchair rationale that brought in the 'back-door' system in 2001 i.e. the unfairness of an exit after one defeat. The club and county debate is guiding it too, hence the changes in the timings for finals etc.

I'm open to certain rule changes, but again, they seem always to be overly broad.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

As much as I enjoyed the feast of football at the weekend, its hard not to look at the empty terraces, and the tight results between teams that are usually miles apart, and not feel that the interest isn't there for these games.

I'm not sure why the format is under such constant scrutiny and subject to so much change.

It is a funny one, why they look to make so many changes all the time to the sport itself and/or formats.
One bad possession game and they want to start changing rules like time clock or no pass back to keeper.
But how many dire soccer games have we watched? You are allowed to get the odd bad game, especially in earlier rounds.



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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

As much as I enjoyed the feast of football at the weekend, its hard not to look at the empty terraces, and the tight results between teams that are usually miles apart, and not feel that the interest isn't there for these games.

I'm not sure why the format is under such constant scrutiny and subject to so much change.

It needed to change. The reason it's changing so much is that the GAA is a conservative organisation so you'll never get something through in one go that would actually fix this. 
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As much as I enjoyed the feast of football at the weekend, its hard not to look at the empty terraces, and the tight results between teams that are usually miles apart, and not feel that the interest isn't there for these games.

I'm not sure why the format is under such constant scrutiny and subject to so much change.
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by sausy sausy wrote:

Given the crowds at most of the games over the weekend I think we can call the new group stages a failure. Pointless amount of extra games added. 

I think the overall structure is a failure. Provincial championships also mean nothing now also (should be scrapped in my opinion). 

Provincial championships should replace the pre-season O'Byrne Cup, FBD League etc competitions. 
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Originally posted by sausy sausy wrote:

Given the crowds at most of the games over the weekend I think we can call the new group stages a failure. Pointless amount of extra games added. 

I think the overall structure is a failure. Provincial championships also mean nothing now also (should be scrapped in my opinion). 
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Given the crowds at most of the games over the weekend I think we can call the new group stages a failure. Pointless amount of extra games added. 
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Watching the Down Meath game on GAA Go
It’s a very poor service, seem to only have one camera at the side of the pitch which it’s hard to make out any players from, no other angles or replays.
Are all games like this?
Not worth £12.99 
Seen a bit of that last night, whatever about the quality of the TV coverage, the pitch in Parnell Park was a disgrace. One of the goalmouths was like a sand pit, players and management very badly let down for the commitment and effort they pit in. These subsidiary competitions seem very underwhelming with very low attendances.
Also, bare patches on the pitch at Healy Park in Omagh for Tyrone v Armagh yesterday and at McHale Park in Castlebar for Mayo v Louth atm.


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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Watching the Down Meath game on GAA Go
It’s a very poor service, seem to only have one camera at the side of the pitch which it’s hard to make out any players from, no other angles or replays.
Are all games like this?
Not worth £12.99 
Seen a bit of that last night, whatever about the quality of the TV coverage, the pitch in Parnell Park was a disgrace. One of the goalmouths was like a sand pit, players and management very badly let down for the commitment and effort they pit in. These subsidiary competitions seem very underwhelming with very low attendances.
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