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    Posted: 27 Oct 2020 at 2:02pm
Just seen two videos of those far right idiots and it’s absolutely sickening what they are up to mainly just the nonsense that are taking about it’s disgusting. One was Gemma O Doherty talking about how she didn’t know about Bobby Sands and that the hunger strikers were stupid to do what they did because they aren’t here now to fight globalists. She went into say the ira didn’t exist either. Another was the Nazi sheep farmer McConnell our marching on some backroad with a few flags wearing those masks like the anonymous web hackers wear. He was giving a speech about how MacSwiney wouldn’t have put up with the globalists. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sid waddell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 11:02pm
Originally posted by the_walls the_walls wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

At what point do the Gardai step in and stop this carry on

Because we will end up with an Irish version of Jo Cox before long if it is not stopped

If this was an Islamist calling for mass murder on the streets of Dublin it would be stopped, and rightly so, have no doubt, so why is the incident in the following video allowed happen

https://twitter.com/ThereseCahill1/status/1320745682928574464

Never heard of her. Is she a well known crackpot? The Guards should absolutely be taking action though
Well known enough

Her real name is Dolores Webster but she calls herself Dee Wall

She's a frequent sidekick of Gemmarrhoids

She was at a fascist demo in Galway a couple of weeks ago and started coughing over people deliberately




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote the_walls Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 10:55pm
Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

At what point do the Gardai step in and stop this carry on

Because we will end up with an Irish version of Jo Cox before long if it is not stopped

If this was an Islamist calling for mass murder on the streets of Dublin it would be stopped, and rightly so, have no doubt, so why is the incident in the following video allowed happen

https://twitter.com/ThereseCahill1/status/1320745682928574464

Never heard of her. Is she a well known crackpot? The Guards should absolutely be taking action though
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sid waddell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 10:25pm
Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Link doesn't work?
Sorry, I've noticed that Twitter links don't work without going back and editing the post, the link should work now, content has a warning on the tweet
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sid waddell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Oct 2020 at 10:14pm
At what point do the Gardai step in and stop this carry on

Because we will end up with an Irish version of Jo Cox before long if it is not stopped

If this was an Islamist calling for mass murder on the streets of Dublin it would be stopped, and rightly so, have no doubt, so why is the incident in the following video allowed happen

https://twitter.com/ThereseCahill1/status/1320745682928574464

Edited by sid waddell - 26 Oct 2020 at 10:23pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sid waddell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 1:38am
Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:


Falsely claiming that those who oppose fascism are as bad as the fascists is both sidesing

That's a political theory called the Horseshoe effect.
It's not

As an aside, punching Nazis should always be encouraged, because they're Nazis
Yes it is a theory, you don't have to agree with it but it is an established political theory. 
Yes it is a theory and it is not what this is
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jackal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2020 at 1:12am
Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:


Falsely claiming that those who oppose fascism are as bad as the fascists is both sidesing

That's a political theory called the Horseshoe effect.
It's not

As an aside, punching Nazis should always be encouraged, because they're Nazis
Yes it is a theory, you don't have to agree with it but it is an established political theory. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sid waddell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Oct 2020 at 10:47pm
Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:


Falsely claiming that those who oppose fascism are as bad as the fascists is both sidesing

That's a political theory called the Horseshoe effect.
It's not

As an aside, punching Nazis should always be encouraged, because they're Nazis
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Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:


Falsely claiming that those who oppose fascism are as bad as the fascists is both sidesing

That's a political theory called the Horseshoe effect.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sid waddell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Oct 2020 at 8:54pm
Both sidesing is a derivative of false equivalence

Falsely claiming that those who oppose fascism are as bad as the fascists is both sidesing

That's what Clifford did yesterday

Another example of both sidesing is right-wing commentators who inferred that Biden was equally to blame for the sh*tshow the debate the other week turned into, when Trump was 99.8% to blame, with the other 0.2% blame being on the moderator

Both sidesing is a cancer on public debate and consistently benefits appalling politics

It is also a moral disgrace




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What does sidesing mean, sorry?

Didn't listen to all of brendan o Connor today but they mentioned it in passing in terms of covid, giving out about both sides. 

Besides that it seemed like there was very few there and your man Barrett doesn't seem like he'd be much of a figurehead. 

Guards should really be cracking down on this though. Seemed like a lot of hate speech yesterday.


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Michael Clifford both sidesing yesterday's fascist demonstration 

And he's a journalist I would previously have had a bit of respect for

Very disappointing

If the media keeps doing this, we have a big problem


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I see Jennifer Zamperelli has invited an Anti Mask advocate on to her 2FM show tomorrow Ermm
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

just bought the Kerryman and no mention of a lad in Bueonos Aires who won the lotto there worth 10million but some mention Of a lad who won the Crokes lotto of 3,000.  Typical media bias 

Was that the North Kerryman or South Kerryman? 
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just bought the Kerryman and no mention of a lad in Bueonos Aires who won the lotto there worth 10million but some mention Of a lad who won the Crokes lotto of 3,000.  Typical media bias 

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Originally posted by Huggybeer Huggybeer wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Huggybeer Huggybeer wrote:

Need to be careful, with all media not just social, when the story of John Pender being stabbed in spain broke, i checked most English newspapers and none carried the story, I recall thinking that if the nationality's were reversed it would have been front page. Media choosing whats important for us to know.

https://extra.ie/2019/06/21/news/irish-news/irishman-stabbed-in-spain-killed

Not sure of your point here


Point was that mainstream media steer us in a direction to suit a narrative as much as social media and its very easy to trust mainstream sources

What narrative did the English press take by not covering an Irishman stabbed in Spain? 
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Journalism is supposed to afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted

Right-wing media generally comforts the comfortable and afflicts the afflicted
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