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    Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 11:06am
Would like to see Cullen start alongside Whelan in midfield, with one of Hourihane or Hendrick too.

Make it a proper dog fight and give Eriksen no space to do his thing.
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Why does it have to be Whelan that's dropped? There's far less justification for Hourihane & Hendrick to start rather than Glenn.

Cullen and Whelan can play in the same team even if Cullen needs to push up a bit. 
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Honestly baffling how glenn whelan is ahead of cullen in the pecking order to be our regular number 6.

Granted glenn had a decent game away in switzerland when we were looking lambs to the slaughter.

Too many times opposition seek our centre mid area out as a weak link and will run and target the spine of our team because they know full well glenn has 0 legs to get around. 

Aswell as this, I would argue that whelans performances in general are over rated, the swiss away game for example - he threw himself about tbh more than most and typical irish then to say he was a collosus. A good clever centre midfielder will have the cuteness and positional sense to not be caught out of position.

Josh cullen is a very clever player,  i have been watching him a lot this year at charlton and he is constantly looking over his shoulder with his back to goal to always know how much space he has to manoveure a pass or potentially go forward himself. He has a seriously good footie brain, his range of passing is premiership class also. Way superior than anything we have in the squad currently.

But because its glenn whelan and hes been a good servant he will start monday of course.

Just wait for denmark to start running from deep straight down our middle. mark my words.
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Whatever about the merits of a meaningless friendly against poor opposition, Cullen has been performing very well for Charlton. Our midfield have been dreadful for the last 100 years. If we go with Hendrick, Whelan, McClean, Brady and Hourihane, we know what we are going to get. Why persist with a broken system?
Cullen might not be the next Xavi but he looks to be someone who shows for the ball and uses it fairly effectively. Now, maybe playing for Ireland might knock that out of him but it would be great to at least try something different. I understand the argument against picking Byrne for a qualifier as he is competing at LOI level which isn't up to scratch but Cullen is operating in a sufficiently decent league. 

 
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To think he would have been behind Rice in the pecking order....

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IF he played well in the most meaningless game in the history of football he absolutely must start.

I'm not into this flavour of the month stuff when it comes to Irish national team players but Cullen deserves to be a regular starter for us. He's mobile, has a decent cross, closes people down and he will run all night.There's an urgency to his play that our midfield badly needs.  I don't think Georgia and Switzerland would've found it as easy to go right through our midfield if he was playing. I actually thought after his Bulgaria performance that Mick would give play him in both the double header games. 

I wouldn't even see it as a risk starting him against Denmark as opposed to someone unproven like Parrott up front. 

He possibly does, but the problem is people are basing it on a sh*t training game. It’s nonsensical.

I know they were weak enough opposition in the two games but in fairness to Cullen he wasn't treating it like one. I don't think there'd be a danger of him being out of his depth against better opposition like Denmark or Slovakia/Wales in next year's playoffs should we not qualify on Monday. 
Wouldn’t the fact he was taking it seriously, if he was, make it worse? 
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Whelan can't even play well against "sh*te opposition", so the fact Cullen can should be enough to put him ahead of him.


He was one of our better players in the last game against the Swiss, who are arguably the best side in the group.

Cullen will get his chance, it's only a matter of time.
     
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

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IF he played well in the most meaningless game in the history of football he absolutely must start.

I'm not into this flavour of the month stuff when it comes to Irish national team players but Cullen deserves to be a regular starter for us. He's mobile, has a decent cross, closes people down and he will run all night.There's an urgency to his play that our midfield badly needs.  I don't think Georgia and Switzerland would've found it as easy to go right through our midfield if he was playing. I actually thought after his Bulgaria performance that Mick would give play him in both the double header games. 

I wouldn't even see it as a risk starting him against Denmark as opposed to someone unproven like Parrott up front. 

He possibly does, but the problem is people are basing it on a sh*t training game. It’s nonsensical.

I know they were weak enough opposition in the two games but in fairness to Cullen he wasn't treating it like one. I don't think there'd be a danger of him being out of his depth against better opposition like Denmark or Slovakia/Wales in next year's playoffs should we not qualify on Monday. 
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Whelan can't even play well against "sh*te opposition", so the fact Cullen can should be enough to put him ahead of him.
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

IF he played well in the most meaningless game in the history of football he absolutely must start.

I'm not into this flavour of the month stuff when it comes to Irish national team players but Cullen deserves to be a regular starter for us. He's mobile, has a decent cross, closes people down and he will run all night.There's an urgency to his play that our midfield badly needs.  I don't think Georgia and Switzerland would've found it as easy to go right through our midfield if he was playing. I actually thought after his Bulgaria performance that Mick would give play him in both the double header games. 

I wouldn't even see it as a risk starting him against Denmark as opposed to someone unproven like Parrott up front. 

He possibly does, but the problem is people are basing it on a sh*t training game. It’s nonsensical.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

IF he played well in the most meaningless game in the history of football he absolutely must start.

I'm not into this flavour of the month stuff when it comes to Irish national team players but Cullen deserves to be a regular starter for us. He's mobile, has a decent cross, closes people down and he will run all night.There's an urgency to his play that our midfield badly needs.  I don't think Georgia and Switzerland would've found it as easy to go right through our midfield if he was playing. I actually thought after his Bulgaria performance that Mick would play him in both the double header games. 

I wouldn't even see it as a risk starting him against Denmark as opposed to someone unproven like Parrott up front. 



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I know it’s extremely unlikely but I would love if he started Monday 

He played well in fairness, knowing Mick I would say it'll never happen. Maybe come on as a sub if we need him. 
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I know it’s extremely unlikely but I would love if he started Monday 
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1st time I’ve watched him in a full game against pne and he’s been anonymous on the other hand seanie Maguire had a stormer.
You have some ridiculously low standards if that is a stormer for you. He barely touched the ball the entire first half and speaking of anonymous, only completed 17 passes the entire match. He mainly just took shots nowhere near the target and hid out on the left wing with one good run that he got fortunate the defender slipped on. His shots were all so sh*t that Sky didn't even include them in their highlights online. Speaking of which, those highlights didn't feature Seanie Maguire at all. Strange for a forward to have an absolute stormer and not produce a single highlight. 

So yea, let's be honest and admit there was no storming done at all. He wasn't even one of Preston's better players and nowhere even near one of the best performances I've seen at the Valley this season. It was nothing more than average at best.

As for Cullen, today was his worst performance of the season and for many others too. Missing Lyle Taylor, Williams and Leko started on the bench meant the forward line was non-existent. The team as a whole couldn't get the ball forward because there were no options. 


What game were you watching, he was on the ball loads. His end product was poor but his pace and balance caused a lot of problems for Charlton. 
The one where he didn't produce anything worthwhile. By your own admission his product was poor. He didn't create a single worthwhile chance the entire game. It was nowhere even close to a "stormer." He had about one good run which he did nothing with anyway. And that is up against Solly, who has to be one of the worst fullbacks I've seen in the league. So all in all, nowhere even near a stormer, it was barely average. He was easily better tonight for Ireland and that wasn't a stormer either. 
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what’s his contract situation like? Last year of West Ham? Know he’s been with Charlton awhile but would love to see him at a better Championship side longer term. 
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1st time I’ve watched him in a full game against pne and he’s been anonymous on the other hand seanie Maguire had a stormer.
You have some ridiculously low standards if that is a stormer for you. He barely touched the ball the entire first half and speaking of anonymous, only completed 17 passes the entire match. He mainly just took shots nowhere near the target and hid out on the left wing with one good run that he got fortunate the defender slipped on. His shots were all so sh*t that Sky didn't even include them in their highlights online. Speaking of which, those highlights didn't feature Seanie Maguire at all. Strange for a forward to have an absolute stormer and not produce a single highlight. 

So yea, let's be honest and admit there was no storming done at all. He wasn't even one of Preston's better players and nowhere even near one of the best performances I've seen at the Valley this season. It was nothing more than average at best.

As for Cullen, today was his worst performance of the season and for many others too. Missing Lyle Taylor, Williams and Leko started on the bench meant the forward line was non-existent. The team as a whole couldn't get the ball forward because there were no options. 


What game were you watching, he was on the ball loads. His end product was poor but his pace and balance caused a lot of problems for Charlton. 
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1st time I’ve watched him in a full game against pne and he’s been anonymous on the other hand seanie Maguire had a stormer.
Always a mistake that. Its a lot easier to hype up our players if you don't actually watch them in action. That's why they should all go and play in the Dutch second division or on loan in Slovakia.
Well apparently you can watch them and just pretend they had a stormer anyway like Maguire. 
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