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    Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 8:45am
Originally posted by KING-CON KING-CON wrote:

Norwood retires at 28. 

 
Norwood has had a fallout with Michael O'Neill apparently.
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Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

The Swiss did sell their allocation for the playoff in Belfast.  However away allocations are pretty small.  The Dutch are only getting 700 tickets for November according to a friend who is in their fanclub.  I think the Swiss got more for the playoff but can't recall for sure.

No idea how many they will bring to Dublin. Not sure where you get the idea they bring big support to tournaments. I was behind the goal at Albania v Switzerland in Lens and thought I was in the Albanian end as the crowd was over 90% Albanian.  Turns out I was in the Swiss end as the other end was almost 100% Albanian.  Even at the Rof16 in St. Etienne (day before France game in Lyon) close to the Swiss border on a Saturday they were outnumbered by the Poles. 




Tbh I'm only going by tv but it seemed like they had large support in the stands but I might have that wrong. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:


Just out of curiosity, did the Swiss fill their allocation when your lot played them in Belfast? What's the  away support allocation for Windsor/national stadium?

They seem to bring a large support to the tournaments so I'd expect at least 1K when we play them in two weeks. 


Not sure about their clubs, but from what I've seen, Swiss support for their National Team is pretty pathetic, home and away.

Football just isn't that big a deal with them, tbh.

And if you look at the squad members who've brought them a degree of success recently, there aren't too many "Schumachers" or "Favres" to be found, it's domnated by 1st or 2nd generation immigrants from outside the country:
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The Swiss did sell their allocation for the playoff in Belfast.  However away allocations are pretty small.  The Dutch are only getting 700 tickets for November according to a friend who is in their fanclub.  I think the Swiss got more for the playoff but can't recall for sure.

No idea how many they will bring to Dublin. Not sure where you get the idea they bring big support to tournaments. I was behind the goal at Albania v Switzerland in Lens and thought I was in the Albanian end as the crowd was over 90% Albanian.  Turns out I was in the Swiss end as the other end was almost 100% Albanian.  Even at the Rof16 in St. Etienne (day before France game in Lyon) close to the Swiss border on a Saturday they were outnumbered by the Poles. 


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5% at Windsor is about 900 (usually housed at western end of South Stand, ie to left of camera). From memory I think the Swiss nearly filled the area

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Originally posted by Floreat Ultonia Floreat Ultonia wrote:

Oliver Nowhere has gone away

Jordan Thompson/ Liam Donnelly is here to stay?

Generally agree with Terri above. This has been coming (after missing the last NL game suspended he cut the March then June games citing both injury, personal reasons)  and getting a suntan in Valencia. Orange Blossom Coast trumps Orange Statelet Tongue

The timing's odd even once we accept the inevitability than professional sportsmen will act selfishly to prolong their careers. He seems to think that a regular week off between slugfests with other EPL strugglers is more enticing than playing 4 games against Europe's best.

In the short term, playing those 4 games would have likely made little difference to prolonging that EPL career. The Blunts are likely to go down regardless of his performances; a better side won't necessarily sign him at 28-29 when every wunderkind Worldwide is available. And of course he's 8 or 9 times more likely to be injured playing for them than  NI. Although if he really is Sheff Utd's alpha male Billy Wilder is hardly going to sign Pogba or Coutinho to replace him.

I'm more worried about reserve centre backs right now

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Just out of curiosity, did the Swiss fill their allocation when your lot played them in Belfast? What's the  away support allocation for Windsor/national stadium?

They seem to bring a large support to the tournaments so I'd expect at least 1K when we play them in two weeks. 



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Ps good luck to the guy anyway. 57 caps (including 29 successive competitive starts 2014-18) is impressive
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Oliver Nowhere has gone away

Jordan Thompson/ Liam Donnelly is here to stay?

Generally agree with Terri above. This has been coming (after missing the last NL game suspended he cut the March then June games citing both injury, personal reasons)  and getting a suntan in Valencia. Orange Blossom Coast trumps Orange Statelet Tongue

The timing's odd even once we accept the inevitability than professional sportsmen will act selfishly to prolong their careers. He seems to think that a regular week off between slugfests with other EPL strugglers is more enticing than playing 4 games against Europe's best.

In the short term, playing those 4 games would have likely made little difference to prolonging that EPL career. The Blunts are likely to go down regardless of his performances; a better side won't necessarily sign him at 28-29 when every wunderkind Worldwide is available. And of course he's 8 or 9 times more likely to be injured playing for them than  NI. Although if he really is Sheff Utd's alpha male Billy Wilder is hardly going to sign Pogba or Coutinho to replace him.

I'm more worried about reserve centre backs right now


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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

He's arguably their most important midfielder along with Davis and Dallas. Has to be seen as a massive blow for them. 

You'd think he'd have seen out the campaign. Strange timing. 

Didn’t bother starting the campaign for them.

Didn't realize that. Did they half expect it if he was making himself unavailable from the start of the euro qualifiers? 
There was clearly something up, so this latest news was not greatly unexpected.

Tbh, it's hard to say what's behind it. There are rumours of a falling-out with Michael, and/or family or personal problems, without any evidence of same.

I myself suspect that after finally getting to the PL at the third attempt (transferred successively by both Brighton and Fulham after they won promotion), he's decided he has to give everything to Sheff U in order to stay there.

A couple of 10 day breaks each season, plus a completely free summer would certainly help his preparation, fitness and recovery etc for club games, esp if he's being pushed every PL game to stay competitive.

And Sheff U would certainly be happy with this decision, even if Michael clearly isn't:

If Sheff U were maybe "nudging" him towards this, I wonder what they think about their ROI contingent heading off on international duty? Maybe the difference there is that none of them is guaranteed to play every minute of every game, like Norwood? (Maybe Robinson? Egan, even?)

Oh well, it's a big blow, but we've had those before and come through, so we'll just have to do so again.



Stevens & maybe McGoldrick at a push (Long probably) are guaranteed starters under Mick but not Egan and Robinson assuming everyone's fit. 

Couldn't imagine many others on the N.I. team (excluding that Fermanagh wingnut up front) pulling plug like that. 

Desperate to see any player giving up playing for their national side at a young age and potentially miss out on playing in world cups but it's probably a sensible career decision in prolonging his club career in the top flight. 

I wouldn't put it past 'Arry' Arter doing the something similar with us tbh. 


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I would imagine Egan and Stevens will be, fitness and form permitting, playing the full 90 mins of every game so I don't think that's got much to do with it. Your overall assessment is probably accurate however - i.e that after a couple of close shaves he wants to give it everything in order to be successful in the division. Big loss to NI in any event, he's a decent player.

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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

He's arguably their most important midfielder along with Davis and Dallas. Has to be seen as a massive blow for them. 

You'd think he'd have seen out the campaign. Strange timing. 

Didn’t bother starting the campaign for them.

Didn't realize that. Did they half expect it if he was making himself unavailable from the start of the euro qualifiers? 
There was clearly something up, so this latest news was not greatly unexpected.

Tbh, it's hard to say what's behind it. There are rumours of a falling-out with Michael, and/or family or personal problems, without any evidence of same.

I myself suspect that after finally getting to the PL at the third attempt (transferred successively by both Brighton and Fulham after they won promotion), he's decided he has to give everything to Sheff U in order to stay there.

A couple of 10 day breaks each season, plus a completely free summer would certainly help his preparation, fitness and recovery etc for club games, esp if he's being pushed every PL game to stay competitive.

And Sheff U would certainly be happy with this decision, even if Michael clearly isn't:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49396878

If Sheff U were maybe "nudging" him towards this, I wonder what they think about their ROI contingent heading off on international duty? Maybe the difference there is that none of them is guaranteed to play every minute of every game, like Norwood? (Maybe Robinson? Egan, even?)

Oh well, it's a big blow, but we've had those before and come through, so we'll just have to do so again.


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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

He's arguably their most important midfielder along with Davis and Dallas. Has to be seen as a massive blow for them. 

You'd think he'd have seen out the campaign. Strange timing. 

Didn’t bother starting the campaign for them.

Didn't realize that. Did they half expect it if he was making himself unavailable from the start of the euro qualifiers? 
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

He's arguably their most important midfielder along with Davis and Dallas. Has to be seen as a massive blow for them. 

You'd think he'd have seen out the campaign. Strange timing. 

Didn’t bother starting the campaign for them.
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Michael O'Neill will probably blame the FAI. Big smile
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He's arguably their most important midfielder along with Davis and Dallas. Has to be seen as a massive blow for them. 

You'd think he'd have seen out the campaign. Strange timing. 


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Early days in the season but after Linfield lost 2 4 at home to Coleraine yesterday they are currently eighth in league Crusaders are top.

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