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    Posted: 29 Apr 2019 at 9:27am
Big achievement considering Sharp scored more goals, shows he makes a big all round contribution. Fair play to him.

Edited by The O'Shea - 29 Apr 2019 at 9:27am
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Few contenders for it too. 
He seems to be universally loved.
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Won the clubs player of the year award. ClapClap
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DeclanDaly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Apr 2019 at 9:46pm
He deserves his chance to go up, and I don’t see Sheffield United having an unlimited budget to splurge on players. Hope we see some vintage performances next year.

Produced an outstanding pass that nearly led to a goal today. 

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I think he'll do alright, he has the skill level to be a useful player for them in a league where they'll likely struggle to create many chances.
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Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Just getting the balance right is the key , have to keep him for sure and United will have to buy a few players in key areas then hope for the best . Lets face it they will be one of the favs to drop down again at the end of next season along with Burnley Big smileBig smileBig smile

Brighton and Palace without Zaha are also good shouts 
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Just getting the balance right is the key , have to keep him for sure and United will have to buy a few players in key areas then hope for the best . Lets face it they will be one of the favs to drop down again at the end of next season along with Burnley Big smileBig smileBig smile

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Originally posted by Bham_McDermott Bham_McDermott wrote:

Can see him staying at champ level if he is forced out, maybe to Warnock's Cardiff when they go… although Wilder doesn't seem the kind of bloke to force a player out if he has done a job. 

Where was I think Norwich would be a lot more cut throat to players that took them up, in their summer transfer policy.
Fulham did that last year, it didn't end too well.

I haven't been alone in being critical of McGoldrick in the past, but Wilder has turned him into a very useful player in a very useful team. I would be very surprised if he ripped the plan up because of it being successful. 
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He's been outstanding today and will do a job in the Premier League!
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Can see him staying at champ level if he is forced out, maybe to Warnock's Cardiff when they go… although Wilder doesn't seem the kind of bloke to force a player out if he has done a job. 

Where was I think Norwich would be a lot more cut throat to players that took them up, in their summer transfer policy.
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Originally posted by Gerry Geary Gerry Geary wrote:

His partnership with Hogan is really good. We need the 4 in the premier league.
 
I like Hogan, but will sheff u try and buy him? feel like he hasn't exactly set the world on fire since joining, I know madine is only on loan but hes certainly behind mcgoldrick and sharp, feel like them buying him becomes less likely if they go up. not sure what his next move should be, would be interesting if both sheff u and villa go up bc then I don't think he would be in either's plans
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His partnership with Hogan is really good. We need the 4 in the premier league.
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Originally posted by Lenny82 Lenny82 wrote:

His 2nd goal was a screamer. Is he only there on a one year deal?

Originally yes, but they sensibly extended it. It'll be interesting to see how he does in the Premier League next year, I dont think he'll score more than 5-8 goals, but he has the ability to be an effective link man.
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Why is he called 'the Didzi'? I have seen it mentioned a couple of times.
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To be fair I think PM left it there first :)
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

A laughable punishment, West Ham’s representatives were seen laughing at both.
How come nobody else struggled to understand the rules?
The rest is still irrelevant.

The rules were clearly misunderstood otherwise the events of 31 August 2006 don’t happen. After the fact, superficial chimes of “third party ownership is verboten” is not the same as what happened at the time.

The rest is totally relevant, and is jus an inconvenience if you make the incorrect assumption about the rules in 2006.
It is irrelevant because West Ham weren't punished.For example, if they had finished bottom I would still have wanted them to be punished. Sheffield United's results aren't relevant to the rules being applied.Neither are West Ham's.
West Ham admitted to breaching the rules and their managing director admitted to telling a lie, the FA/EPL essentially left them away with, even allowing Tevez to continue playing after they confirmed the rules were broken.
The reason the players were allowed in was because of who they are, or were. It was seen as good for the EPL. It is indefensible, but West Ham fans have a history of defending the indefensible.

So you see the multiple issues at play when the powers that be were involved. That is what made this situation very difficult in the first place. And I’m not here to defend the powers that be. But Tevez’s key involvement came with the thumbs up of the powers that be, so the 9 points at the end of the season, which made the difference were legitimately won.
West Ham cheated, lied about the cheating, got a paltry punishment and then had the gall to pretend to be the victims. I find the points won or not as a result of Tevez to be irrelevant, although others didn't. If he had spent the season injured I would still have expected them to be properly punished for deliberately breaking the rules.
The reason Tevez got the 'thumbs up' was because West Ham had lied during his registration.

Anyway, this is the Dave McGoldrick thread. I will leave at that, other than to say West Ham really are ****s.

The issue of the “lie” is still disputed as it was never adequately tested in the course of the case. It was asserted, and it was never rebutted as it was never given a chance to be rebutted, in the normal course where natural justice prevails. So that also can’t be stated factually, and it was certainly not the case that there was an admission.

I have laid out my points on the rules, and I have said what I said. Like you said, it’s a thread about David McGoldrick, and I’m also going to leave it there.


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His 2nd goal was a screamer. Is he only there on a one year deal?
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

A laughable punishment, West Ham’s representatives were seen laughing at both.
How come nobody else struggled to understand the rules?
The rest is still irrelevant.

The rules were clearly misunderstood otherwise the events of 31 August 2006 don’t happen. After the fact, superficial chimes of “third party ownership is verboten” is not the same as what happened at the time.

The rest is totally relevant, and is jus an inconvenience if you make the incorrect assumption about the rules in 2006.
It is irrelevant because West Ham weren't punished.For example, if they had finished bottom I would still have wanted them to be punished. Sheffield United's results aren't relevant to the rules being applied.Neither are West Ham's.
West Ham admitted to breaching the rules and their managing director admitted to telling a lie, the FA/EPL essentially left them away with, even allowing Tevez to continue playing after they confirmed the rules were broken.
The reason the players were allowed in was because of who they are, or were. It was seen as good for the EPL. It is indefensible, but West Ham fans have a history of defending the indefensible.

So you see the multiple issues at play when the powers that be were involved. That is what made this situation very difficult in the first place. And I’m not here to defend the powers that be. But Tevez’s key involvement came with the thumbs up of the powers that be, so the 9 points at the end of the season, which made the difference were legitimately won.
West Ham cheated, lied about the cheating, got a paltry punishment and then had the gall to pretend to be the victims. I find the points won or not as a result of Tevez to be irrelevant, although others didn't. If he had spent the season injured I would still have expected them to be properly punished for deliberately breaking the rules.
The reason Tevez got the 'thumbs up' was because West Ham had lied during his registration.

Anyway, this is the Dave McGoldrick thread. I will leave at that, other than to say West Ham really are ****s.
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