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    Posted: 27 Oct 2020 at 11:35pm
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Gerrard is only a figurehead. Beale and McAllister are running the show. I don't think Gerrard even takes training.

Which is the norm in the modern game, coaches will run the sessions while the manager observes for the most part.


Ah right. I didn't know that, but my interest in such things is minimal. I know locally that Bonner does take the training, but his job title may be head coach. Is it thag the difference between a manager and a head coach then? Is a manager actually needed at all then? 

Taking Klopp as an example and given that he's the Manager of Liverpool, he has a say in everything i.e. training sessions, transfers, training ground developments etc whereas your stereotypical Head Coach is tasked with just footballing matters i.e. picking the team, running training sessions etc but may not have any say in who is signed (to a point) or infrastructure changes to the training ground or what have you.

Bonner at Cambridge probably only has a small backroom team to work with it like many clubs, so between 4 or 5 of them (assuming) they will all do numerous jobs amongst eachother to cut costs and save money.

I mean Liverpool have a specialist throw in coach ffs LOL
That makes sense, although U's have often had a larger than needed backroom. Bonner wanted it trimmed. Whatever he is doing it's working! I guess it makes sense for smaller clubs to have an overall manager who deals with the non-football side and leave the coach work with the players.

With Gerrard though, as opposed to Klopp, it seems he is little more than head cheerleader and a name that placated fans. Either way, it is working there too.

I think in all cases now, for better or worse, there needs to be a system at clubs and all the irritating buzzwords and terminology that comes with it. Players seem to expect. It seems that managers make players now rather than the other way around. That's what Rangers have, while Lennon still seems to be going with the MON/Clough approach of individual ability. 

You know yourself, too many chefs spoil a broth and all that lark! I could imagine that working in a smaller and tight knit group as a management team means there's direct communication all the time which can only be a good thing.

Oh I have absolutely no doubt that it's Beale (he's a genius) that's the main reason in Rangers up turn in fortunes and why we're seeing some of their players genuinely improve as footballers. Brendan Rodgers is cut from that same cloth in that regard and he was always a coach first and foremost.

Given that Gerrard has little to no coaching experience, I would be fairly certain that he wouldn't have the tools to actually coach players from back to front and improve them. Perhaps bar central midfielders because that was relative to this playing career. 


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2 Milan players and 3 staff members test positive for COVID

Opponents get it after they play Celtic

Sevco opponents get it before they play them.


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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Gerrard is only a figurehead. Beale and McAllister are running the show. I don't think Gerrard even takes training.

Which is the norm in the modern game, coaches will run the sessions while the manager observes for the most part.


Ah right. I didn't know that, but my interest in such things is minimal. I know locally that Bonner does take the training, but his job title may be head coach. Is it thag the difference between a manager and a head coach then? Is a manager actually needed at all then? 

Taking Klopp as an example and given that he's the Manager of Liverpool, he has a say in everything i.e. training sessions, transfers, training ground developments etc whereas your stereotypical Head Coach is tasked with just footballing matters i.e. picking the team, running training sessions etc but may not have any say in who is signed (to a point) or infrastructure changes to the training ground or what have you.

Bonner at Cambridge probably only has a small backroom team to work with it like many clubs, so between 4 or 5 of them (assuming) they will all do numerous jobs amongst eachother to cut costs and save money.

I mean Liverpool have a specialist throw in coach ffs LOL
That makes sense, although U's have often had a larger than needed backroom. Bonner wanted it trimmed. Whatever he is doing it's working! I guess it makes sense for smaller clubs to have an overall manager who deals with the non-football side and leave the coach work with the players.

With Gerrard though, as opposed to Klopp, it seems he is little more than head cheerleader and a name that placated fans. Either way, it is working there too.

I think in all cases now, for better or worse, there needs to be a system at clubs and all the irritating buzzwords and terminology that comes with it. Players seem to expect. It seems that managers make players now rather than the other way around. That's what Rangers have, while Lennon still seems to be going with the MON/Clough approach of individual ability. 
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Gerrard is only a figurehead. Beale and McAllister are running the show. I don't think Gerrard even takes training.

Which is the norm in the modern game, coaches will run the sessions while the manager observes for the most part.


Ah right. I didn't know that, but my interest in such things is minimal. I know locally that Bonner does take the training, but his job title may be head coach. Is it thag the difference between a manager and a head coach then? Is a manager actually needed at all then? 

Taking Klopp as an example and given that he's the Manager of Liverpool, he has a say in everything i.e. training sessions, transfers, training ground developments etc whereas your stereotypical Head Coach is tasked with just footballing matters i.e. picking the team, running training sessions etc but may not have any say in who is signed (to a point) or infrastructure changes to the training ground or what have you.

Bonner at Cambridge probably only has a small backroom team to work with it like many clubs, so between 4 or 5 of them (assuming) they will all do numerous jobs amongst eachother to cut costs and save money.

I mean Liverpool have a specialist throw in coach ffs LOL
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Gerrard is only a figurehead. Beale and McAllister are running the show. I don't think Gerrard even takes training.

Which is the norm in the modern game, coaches will run the sessions while the manager observes for the most part.


Ah right. I didn't know that, but my interest in such things is minimal. I know locally that Bonner does take the training, but his job title may be head coach. Is it thag the difference between a manager and a head coach then? Is a manager actually needed at all then? 
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Gerrard is only a figurehead. Beale and McAllister are running the show. I don't think Gerrard even takes training.

Which is the norm in the modern game, coaches will run the sessions while the manager observes for the most part.


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Gerrard is only a figurehead. Beale and McAllister are running the show. I don't think Gerrard even takes training.
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Celtic will win the league.

Steven Gerrard is a bottler and I expect him to mess up.
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Celtic have struggled in all but a couple of those games. Celtic are not fit. Every player is off the pace and nobody knows their role in the team. Rangers have a squad that can rotate without any major disruption to how they play. They are a stick on to beat everyone at home right now and Celtic are not.
For Celtic to even have a sniff the manager would have to go and, even then, it will take a new manager time to get them fit and find his best team from a good squad of individuals. 
I would give Celtic about a 1 in 6 chance of winning the league right now.
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Some goal by Defoe today as well 

Rangers now 1/2 with the bookies 
I would have thought they would be a lot shorter. I know it is only 6 points and with a game in hand, but by the time Celtic even get fit it could be Christmas! Even if a competent manager were to come in I feel it could be too late.
Any neutral that likes a big  bet could clean up there.

1/2 is surely not a good bet.  Yes Rangers are 6 points clear with a game more played and just beat Celtic comfortably however there is a long way to go.  Rangers comfortably beat Celtic last season and then fell apart after that.

Celtic have been consistently better at beating teams that stick ten men behind the ball and kick lumps out of the opposition.  This Rangers manager and players haven't ever come out on the winning side of a title race either.  They will now be under massive pressure as title favourites.  

I still would make Rangers slight favourites but wouldn't be putting a lot of money either way.  
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No excuse for professional footballers not to be fit at this stage of the season, especially when you’re playing for history like Celtic are 
I agree and I am not excusing them, but Aberdeen were much fitter than Celtic today and Rangers were last week too. Elyounoussi also  looks a yard slower than last year. Ajeti seems to have lost a yard since joining and he came from holiday! Frimpong seems burnt out. The whoe thing is a mess that could take a decent manager ages to fix.
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No excuse for professional footballers not to be fit at this stage of the season, especially when you’re playing for history like Celtic are 
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Some goal by Defoe today as well 

Rangers now 1/2 with the bookies 
I would have thought they would be a lot shorter. I know it is only 6 points and with a game in hand, but by the time Celtic even get fit it could be Christmas! Even if a competent manager were to come in I feel it could be too late.
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Some goal by Defoe today as well 

Rangers now 1/2 with the bookies 
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