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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by darman28 darman28 wrote:

Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Probably get more chances in the championship next year. A bit of a baptism of fire throwing him into premier league games. 

They'll benefit from a year playing more regularly and who knows, they may bounce back up.

Isn't all that what was said about Idah two full years ago the last time they went down though   ?



Yes but Idah end up getting injured, twice, for a big of that 20/21 season in the Championship. Only playing 325 minutes of football that season because of his injuries and trying to regain match fitnees after them. Not the best example to use really.

Just on that, is idahs injury record an issue? He's missed the majority of the last two seasons with long term injuries. 

His injuries have hampered his development a bit. He would have got a lot more minutes in the Championship if it wasn't for those two injuries. 3 goals and 1 assist in 325 minutes wasn't a bad ratio.
Then picking up his injury last season in February after starting to get a proper run and getting a few starts in the first team.
Getting knee injuries at his young age in never good. He first injury spell in the 20/21 season was a knee injury, Im not a 100% sure what his injury was for his second injury spell. His injury last February was a knee injury again with an operation and a five month lay off expected. Im not sure if it is the same knee causing the issue or not.
Hopefully he might be recovered for pre-season and be able to kick on.
We will find out more next season if his injuries are still an issue but hopefully not.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote J89 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 May 2022 at 10:11am
Originally posted by darman28 darman28 wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by darman28 darman28 wrote:

Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Probably get more chances in the championship next year. A bit of a baptism of fire throwing him into premier league games. 

They'll benefit from a year playing more regularly and who knows, they may bounce back up.

Isn't all that what was said about Idah two full years ago the last time they went down though   ?




Yes but Idah end up getting injured, twice, for a big of that 20/21 season in the Championship. Only playing 325 minutes of football that season because of his injuries and trying to regain match fitnees after them. Not the best example to use really.


Just on that, is idahs injury record an issue? He's missed the majority of the last two seasons with long term injuries. 


His injuries have hampered his development a bit. He would have got a lot more minutes in the Championship if it wasn't for those two injuries. 3 goals and 1 assist in 325 minutes wasn't a bad ratio.
Then picking up his injury last season in February after starting to get a proper run and getting a few starts in the first team.
Getting knee injuries at his young age in never good. He first injury spell in the 20/21 season was a knee injury, Im not a 100% sure what his injury was for his second injury spell. His injury last February was a knee injury again with an operation and a five month lay off expected. Im not sure if it is the same knee causing the issue or not.
Hopefully he might be recovered for pre-season and be able to kick on.
We will find out more next season if his injuries are still an issue but hopefully not.


Last season he was out due to needing surgery for a hernia.
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Originally posted by KingKenny KingKenny wrote:

Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Perhaps it is time to accept that unless you are playing in the upper reaches of the PL regularly then it doesn’t make much of a difference if you are playing there insofar as it effects your international form.

Isn't that just quitting on getting back to where we were though  ? 
We have to produce guys who are at that level, again, because two or three of those are the difference between qualifying and not, in group matches v elite sides. 

Its two or three, in some cases, years now since Collins / O'Shea  / Omobamidele  / Obamfemi  / Parrott  / Connolly  / Molumby  / Knight / Idah began to emerge and not one has established themselves in the top division, never mind kicked on up a level to a club playing Europa League even. 

You've a list of fellas between 19-22. I think people forget how young they are because of how early they broke through to the the national team.

There's very few teenagers playing regularly at those top levels anymore. Chelsea didn't give a single PL minute to a teenager this season. If in three years time they're all still at the same level you might have a point, but for now it's too early imo.
 


You saved me making the same point. It's almost as if these lads don't watch football. Collins the youngest CB back getting regular PL minutes by a mile this season. Omobamidele would have been the youngest had he been fit. Kelleher the 2nd youngest Keeper to get PL minutes this season.

Our issue is no player between the ages of 24-28 played PL football this season for us. That missing generation of players and we are right in the heart of the younger lads breaking through and learning their trade while the older lads are pushing on.

Omobamidele Idah and Obafemi have had injury issues too. The first two would have gotten regular minutes at thier young ages. Williams and Gilmour the other teenagers at Norwich that got them but even both those lads were dropped to the bench in the finish. Lads on the books of "big clubs" that didn't disgrace themselves at said big clubs either. Gilmour is touted as Scotland's best prospect for a few generations don't forget. Tzolis was touted to be a star in Greece before his move to Norwich and he's found it impossible the step up. 

It's only going to get harder for our young lads to break through in England and it goes for young lads from everywhere else too. Again Idah and Omobamidele haven't been helped by injuries they would have made fantastic strides this season playing regularly if they stayed fit.



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Starts for Norwich this eve vs Bournemouth 
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Starts for Norwich this eve vs Bournemouth 

Seems to be playing left back... is that his normal position 
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Originally posted by Technical_method Technical_method wrote:

Originally posted by Stimpy Stimpy wrote:

Starts for Norwich this eve vs Bournemouth 

Seems to be playing left back... is that his normal position 


Usually a winger I think.
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seems he didnt play very much on loan at derby. wonder if he will go on loan again or stay at norwich
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got 20 mins for norwich today in their 4-4 draw with southampton, got booked for kicking the ball away cant find anything else on how he played
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Nice interview here with Springett. Very good insight into his family background. His mum is from Dún Laoghaire and moved to London at a young age. However he doesn't have much contact with his Dad's English family. Seems very proud to be Irish Clap
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