We’re not Brasil we’re Tuaisceart Éireann

Floreat Ultonia wrote: @Hetfield: OK, how about you managed more highs (and lows) in the campaign, while we were more consistent, meaningless friendly at the end apart? ;) You introduce your posts as 'fair' and 'honest' but really you're just pointing out the obvious over and again. Moldova were bad and San Marino worse. You only needed to beat the Moldovans (1-0 would have done), and you did.  @TonyNJ: yes, I've long thought OWC was too restrictive, even secretive. BTW the TAMB is about to close basically because its owners will no longer pay for a free service. OWC, on the other hand, charges a very reasonable annual sub of £5.  @Muff: as I mentioned last time we discussed it, a large part of your schtick on here is that the NI team shouldn't exist. Were you really able to avoid mentioning that after joining OWC? Obviously a straight red card on that site. Oh and less of the "Even Floreat", as if I was some sort of extremist...

I think TAMB is actually staying open under new ownership AFAIK.

OWC loses out as well as you could have posters from your group's rival teams (Norway/Czech Rep)that would join if it was an open group. It's unlikely they'd pay the 5 quid fee. If posters go on trolling they can just be banned anyway.

Floreat I can honestly say I'm a straight shooter on here and would never say that on the N.I. fans own forum. I find wumming in general to be pointless and boring.

'Even Floreat' wasn't painting you as an extremist but as an example of an N.I. fan on here who acknowledged OWC can be a bit ott with their restrictive access.

What got me kicked off was a post where one of the OWC posters said how Wilson should be playing for his country and I made a reasonable counter that he probably sees it as playing for his country. That was it.

For all our faults as ybigots (as you've called us numerous times on here) you wouldn't get booted off this site for stating that you think N.I. is your country/team.
Trying to look at it from an objective point if view, I think OWC suffers more from being a closed forum. I can understand why they'd have it restricted in some ways but you can just ban the obvious trolls anyway.

Edited by irishmufc - 15 Oct 2017 at 11:24am

@Floreat. The only thing that I have introduced as 'fair' and honest is the gap between San Marino and Moldova, and you have even admitted that through you view that I am only stating the obvious. The rest I'll happily debate. Even though I will agree that NI have more consistency,and we have hit some amazing highs, while also losing in Scotland, drawing in Georgia and the 0-3 against the Belgians..

@Ersatz: good news on TAMB

Edited by Floreat Ultonia - 15 Oct 2017 at 2:38pm

Simple solution. A united ireland team and fans forum. I'm suggesting 'Our Wee Boys In Green' COOWBIG

horsebox wrote: What Unionism really want is that Ulster becomes a true white Protestant state, where Catholics move south and foreigners go back to where they came from. The OO playing the famine is over why don't you go home, is a clear reference to this. They've had complete power in NI for so long with gerrymandering and the like until the civil rights movement happened and it all started to change, albeit very very slowly. Every concession given to others who are not Unionists is seen as an attack on Unionism, 'themuns are attacking 'are kulture''.

They don't publish the figures, but the OO is thought to have around 30k members in NI (and falling). That equates to around 3% of the Unionist population. And I'd guess that give-or-take, that level of membership/support is similar to that of the Dissidents amongst the Nationalist population.

Meanwhile, a clear majority of Unionists voted for the GFA in 1998, signalling an unmistakeable intent to leave the old days of gerrymandering etc behind, and join with their fellow 'Yes' voters and Nationalist neighbours in NI in entering the 21st Century.

It would be nice if you and a few other posters on this forum were to join us, but if you insist on remaining in the last century with your endless dragging up of the past etc, I guess that's your prerogative.

The irony is that you'll have the OO for company in your 1960's world, you make a well-matched pairing.

P.S. I'm sorry to all other posters for responding to this clown, thereby deflecting from the real topic at hand i.e. our football team and related matters. But I think it's still worth pointing out that just about every time he and one or two others post on this thread, they inevitably descend into the usual old historic sh*te, as typified by this latest diatribe (above). Hey ho.

Territorial wrote: horsebox wrote: What Unionism really want is that Ulster becomes a true white Protestant state, where Catholics move south and foreigners go back to where they came from. The OO playing the famine is over why don't you go home, is a clear reference to this. They've had complete power in NI for so long with gerrymandering and the like until the civil rights movement happened and it all started to change, albeit very very slowly. Every concession given to others who are not Unionists is seen as an attack on Unionism, 'themuns are attacking 'are kulture''. They don't publish the figures, but the OO is thought to have around 30k members in NI (and falling). That equates to around 3% of the Unionist population. And I'd guess that give-or-take, that level of membership/support is similar to that of the Dissidents amongst the Nationalist population. Meanwhile, a clear majority of Unionists voted for the GFA in 1998, signalling an unmistakeable intent to leave the old days of gerrymandering etc behind, and join with their fellow 'Yes' voters and Nationalist neighbours in NI in entering the 21st Century. It would be nice if you and a few other posters on this forum were to join us, but if you insist on remaining in the last century with your endless dragging up of the past etc, I guess that's your prerogative. The irony is that you'll have the OO for company in your 1960's world, you make a well-matched pairing. P.S. I'm sorry to all other posters for responding to this clown, thereby deflecting from the real topic at hand i.e. our football team and related matters. But I think it's still worth pointing out that just about every time he and one or two others post on this thread, they inevitably descend into the usual old historic sh*te, as typified by this latest diatribe (above). Hey ho.

There may well be only 30k as actual members but support for the OO and the 12th could be 300k and higher.

I'd doubt there is 3k dissidents let lone 30k and that 3k is being very generous.

I only gave my opinion as to why OWC do not let the general public view their forum. They must have something to hide?

And given that I and many others were quickly banned over engaging in discussion says a lot about the mindset of these members.

You talk about Unionism moving forward, the heavily Unionist BelTel is dragging up the past EVERY single day.

And apparently any person who doesn't support the NI team or is critical of it is a cartoon shinner.

You could argue that Dublin is more pro British than Belast, you'd only have to look at what the Indo print every single day\week with Philip Ryan, Eilish O'Halon, Eoghan Harris and RDE.

The political alignment of the BelTel is British Unionism.

The majority of my posts about the NI team have been mainly positive.

You just can't accept any criticism at all towards anything related to NI at all.

What nonsense am I making up?

I made one comment on why I thought OWC was not open to the public, which is the in-tolerate nature of Unionists.

The rest of my comments were supportive to NI and how well they've done in recent years.