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Originally posted by thebronze14 thebronze14 wrote:


So ridiculously low it's the 2nd highest in the EU. Also our consumption has  steadily fallen since the turn of the century. Pandering to another lobby group just. This will push the price of the dearer cans up as well as they won't want them to be the same price as the cheapest cans

And we have a long standing history of it, when it comes to alcohol. Its worth reading the reportage from 2005 when the suggestion for cafe-bar licences were put out. The idea behind them was to change the culture (similar to NewryRep's point about education). But the resistance was unbelievable, and the idea was cast out.
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Originally posted by jamo1 jamo1 wrote:

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Originally posted by BigStrongMan BigStrongMan wrote:

This is aimed at teenagers and young college goers etc who wouldn’t be flush with cash. The studies in other countries such as Canada shows it works🤷‍♂️

To the best of my knowledge, Canada has minimum litre pricing and has a very holistic approach to the alcohol industry in terms of who can sell etc.
They are very strict in British Columbia, i know a guy that opened a bar over there and he said it was so much hassle with licensing laws that have to be renewed every year he closed it after two years. No alcohol in supermarkets only in bottle shops or pubs.
I don’t know about the pub trade but off licenses and wholesalers have to renew their license every year. I’d guess that pubs have to. Seems pretty standard IMO.
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Originally posted by Donegalman Donegalman wrote:

Originally posted by sausy sausy wrote:

Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

MUP - coming in January. Going to be €2 for a can of anything half decent.
 
Getting rid of the so called "pocket money" priced drinks will have the biggest effect on the poor unfortunately. The people who by the Tesco own brand vodka, gin, beer etc on a daily/regular basis would have a serious addiction problem already IMO. Increasing the price of what they are still 100% going to buy will just end up meaning less money in the house for food, children's clothing etc. 
As funny as it might sound will be a big blow for college students also. 13 euro for a bottle of nikita (tesco vodka), or the four euro tesco wine used to be the go to for many.

You've just answered the reason why it's been introduced LOL

They don't want students or younger drinkers turning into the next generation of alcos. From reading the odd article they are going off how MUP worked in Scotland which stopped younger drinking. Whether it work here or not time will tell 
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If the cost of alcohol was too high when I was a student, I would have taken more drugs.
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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

If the cost of alcohol was too high when I was a student, I would have taken more drugs.

Pushing young people to cannabis for example which has (according to reports recently) massive implications with mental health issues, far worse in the short term than alcohol use. 

Cannabis is legal and strength controlled in Canada, people using Canada as an example forget they’ve a far bigger holistic approach to Alcohol & drug use (misuse). We simply don’t and expect to get the same results by launching €1 onto the price of a can of cider.  

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Originally posted by thebronze14 thebronze14 wrote:

Originally posted by sausy sausy wrote:

Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

24 cans of Heineken going from €25 to over €40. Absolutely pointless.
 
€1 a can is usually a special on half a dozen times a year. 8 pack of Guinness is normally about €14 so that won't be effected. But no more specials unfortunately. Boxes of 20 bottles will see a big rise I presume.
They will put up the price though as Tesco Value lager and the likes will be a similar price!
 
Hopefully it kills off the dirt cheap stuff and the main brands just get charged at the minimum.
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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

If the cost of alcohol was too high when I was a student, I would have taken more drugs.
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Originally posted by sausy sausy wrote:

Originally posted by thebronze14 thebronze14 wrote:

Originally posted by sausy sausy wrote:

Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

24 cans of Heineken going from €25 to over €40. Absolutely pointless.
 
€1 a can is usually a special on half a dozen times a year. 8 pack of Guinness is normally about €14 so that won't be effected. But no more specials unfortunately. Boxes of 20 bottles will see a big rise I presume.
They will put up the price though as Tesco Value lager and the likes will be a similar price!
 
Hopefully it kills off the dirt cheap stuff and the main brands just get charged at the minimum.
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Originally posted by ripbomb ripbomb wrote:

The Longford wedding today organised by the lovely people. Garda got an court order last night to remove the huge marquee set up. Workers from Longford county council failed to take it down today after going in under protection from the guards. As far as I know the party is going ahead all day with basically the Garda providing security for them. Makes my blood boil
9 Gardai by me came down to break up road bowling. They have a de facto exemption from the rules. This isn't a shock to anyone any more.
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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

If the cost of alcohol was too high when I was a student, I would have taken more drugs.

Went back to college in 2014 and there were a lot of students who did just that, as it was cheaper to split a bag of coke or mdma than it was to buy drinks on a night out.
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Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Originally posted by ripbomb ripbomb wrote:

The Longford wedding today organised by the lovely people. Garda got an court order last night to remove the huge marquee set up. Workers from Longford county council failed to take it down today after going in under protection from the guards. As far as I know the party is going ahead all day with basically the Garda providing security for them. Makes my blood boil
9 Gardai by me came down to break up road bowling. They have a de facto exemption from the rules. This isn't a shock to anyone any more.


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Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

MUP - coming in January. Going to be €2 for a can of anything half decent.

It will be from €1.70 for a can for the average alcohol content of a beer such as 4.8.  Anything stronger than that such as the craft beers is usually 2 euro a can anyway.  

 

So the days of a slab of 24 cans for 24 beans will be gone. Closer to 40 now. 
Or 20 bottles of Carlsberg for €12 as it was last week with your clubcard, I remember buying cans of Carlsberg in 1986 at 89p a can.....I wonder will we see the return of the famous Booze Buses to Newry. 

Is there any talk of the nordies bringing in minimum price for booze?

If not, I'll be making regular trips up (and probably do my non beer shopping while I'm there too)
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The faux caring for people.on the breadline by posters on here is laughable.  Pretending to care for others when all they want is their cheap crate of beer 😀😀😀😀
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Originally posted by Wheelo Wheelo wrote:

Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

MUP - coming in January. Going to be €2 for a can of anything half decent.

It will be from €1.70 for a can for the average alcohol content of a beer such as 4.8.  Anything stronger than that such as the craft beers is usually 2 euro a can anyway.  

 

So the days of a slab of 24 cans for 24 beans will be gone. Closer to 40 now. 
Or 20 bottles of Carlsberg for €12 as it was last week with your clubcard, I remember buying cans of Carlsberg in 1986 at 89p a can.....I wonder will we see the return of the famous Booze Buses to Newry. 

Is there any talk of the nordies bringing in minimum price for booze?

If not, I'll be making regular trips up (and probably do my non beer shopping while I'm there too)
Yes but not as soon as January, they had agreed to do it in tandem but Donnellys taken a run at it to get his name attached to it. 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

The faux caring for people.on the breadline by posters on here is laughable.  Pretending to care for others when all they want is their cheap crate of beer 😀😀😀😀

It's not about faux caring.

It's a legitimate gripe about an outcome that is an inevitability of bad policy, or the failure to use consumption taxes (or in this case government surcharges, which will benefit the retailer) properly.
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

The faux caring for people.on the breadline by posters on here is laughable.  Pretending to care for others when all they want is their cheap crate of beer 😀😀😀😀
I own my own house, am I allowed care about people stuck with their parents &/or renting due to sh*te policy? 
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what exactly is the experience from Scotland ? As they have an unhealthy affair with alcohol like our selves 
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